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Kim Woodburn

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MaluCachu · 29/08/2018 13:14

Has anyone else just watched Loose Women/Kim Woodburn’s outburst?

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Roussette · 31/08/2018 12:30

I think they should ALL be made to sit through it and have someone point out to them each part that was so wrong.

At one point, when KW was tearful, JSP was ignoring her by reading her notes with a big grin on her face.

MrsJayy · 31/08/2018 12:36

HA bring on the Kaye 😂

obviouslyperfect · 31/08/2018 12:36

Just watched the first few minutes of LW (only ever seen the clip discussed on this thread before) to see if they addressed it. Nope. Turned off.

Did that woman just say “Does Joe have a problem with it?” asking a woman about her boyfriend’s opinion about overweight women’s or did I mishear?

cleaningtwenty · 31/08/2018 12:43

LW tweeted a “Do you still snog your partner” poll an hour ago. Did they plant that thread on here or just steal their ideas from here?

ShatnersWig · 31/08/2018 12:43

@obviously Quite. JSP said Coleen wanted Kim on the show. Coleen says it was the producers and it was nothing to do with her.

That tells us several things. Firstly, JSP's statements on the show back up what Kim said afterwards, that she was told Coleen wanted her on for a reconciliation. So, we can therefore say Kim is not lying about that.

Why did Coleen not correct JSP on the show? She had several opportunities to do so. Only afterwards with all the backlash did she come out to say it was producers and not her.

And what a co-incidence that it happened on a day when she had her sister there. Sorry, the above seems to make it abundantly clear it was a set up and there's only one liar.

Aspenfrost · 31/08/2018 12:46

Janet was also a journalist - I know. Still she let herself down and I hope regrets her part in the charade.

Aspenfrost · 31/08/2018 12:47

Janet with a big grin is a scary thought!

marants · 31/08/2018 12:50

The petition is going mad now! Think people expected an apology!

Justmuddlingalong · 31/08/2018 12:54

I think CN's interview comments, denying being a bully, has fired people up. No apology, no shame and plenty of self pity.

Everyoneiswingingit · 31/08/2018 12:55

Being called cheap and boring is bullying according to LW but being called a vile publicity seeking witch is not. Silly me!

NancyDonahue · 31/08/2018 12:56

They need to say something about the situation, and leaving it unsaid is just making it worse. It feels very swept under the carpet, which it is not.

AlphabetSoupcon · 31/08/2018 12:59

I wonder how much of this shitshow has been engineered to get rid of the programme? I can’t believe no one involved hasn’t got a good adviser and they are making so many basic mistakes.

Everyoneiswingingit · 31/08/2018 13:00

It should have died down. it would have if they acknowledged they were wrong and if Coleen stopped making sarcastic tweets.

Roussette · 31/08/2018 13:05

What's weird is... LW today to me is very forced, everything being very jolly, talking over the top of each other, forced laughter, OTT friendliness ... all in all, DIRE.

NancyDonahue · 31/08/2018 13:11

Off topic here , but didn't LW and This Morning used to be off air during school holidays? They're both a bit rubbish and just seem to fill time with forgettable topics and guests.

I'm sure ratings would be better with something else. I quite enjoy a decent movie or documentary on my days off and I am a bit of a Homes Under the Hammer superfan Blush. Heir Hunters on BBC is really interesting too.

MaluCachu · 31/08/2018 13:12

I agree Roussette.It was sickly and dripping with fakery (have switched off).Surely they aren’t going to just hope it all goes way?

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Roussette · 31/08/2018 13:16

Malu Yes, I switched off too. The forced laughter and jollity made my teeth itch Grin

HolyMountain · 31/08/2018 13:19

The KW controversy and desire to pretend it never happened is the very definition of 'The elephant in the room'

ShatnersWig · 31/08/2018 13:23

I really don't know what the production company or ITV are doing just hoping it's going to go away as clearly it isn't. And it's their reluctance to engage about what happened that is making it worse, coupled with Nolan family members and their "twitter teams" making additional statements. It's a car crash from a PR viewpoint

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 31/08/2018 13:27

Loose Women has gone from reporting on reality TV to drowning in the dregs of it.

Actually I have a suspicion that the gossipy/celeb /schlocky ‘human interest’ stuff the production crew of Loose Women serve up to the plebs at home is not what they would watch themselves at all. It feels like a cynical exercise in providing easily digested pap to an imagined audience of surrendered housewives, zonked-out new mums and stagnating old biddies.

But the Loose Women team could easily up their game and choose more challenging topics for debate - and scarcely anyone would throw up their hands and cry ‘too taxing on the brain!’ I think they really are underestimating their viewers – and potential viewers.

To provide something more stimulating would, however, involve changing the line up of women who front the show. (Yes, Kaye Adams could stay but some of the others wouldn’t adapt well.)

The American version of Loose Women -The View - which manages to address some serious issues as well as providing a little froth and frivolity, have got Sunny Hostin (lawyer, commentator), Meghan McCain (columnist, political pundit), Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar (actresses/comediennes) as the main panellists.

So, taking that line up as inspiration, for my revamped Loose Women I’m going to go for Caroline Lucas in the political pundit position, Amal Clooney as the resident legal eagle and Jo Brand and Joanna Lumley in the comedienne slots.

I don’t suppose they would want the gig - but if they did I’d watch.

I’d also like to see debates involving blue stockings like Susan Greenfield, Susan Blackmore and Mary Beard. But I guess some might say that would be going from lowbrow straight through highbrow into receding hairline territory!

OhDearGodLookAtThisMess · 31/08/2018 13:28

But it's always "forced laughter and jollity," from what I've had the misfortune to hear. Why watch in the first place?

Roussette · 31/08/2018 13:36

More forced and OTT today OhDear. I don't make a point of watching it, sometimes it's on in the background. More often than not, I turn it off when it comes on!

Roussette · 31/08/2018 13:36

I wanted to see if an apology would be forthcoming today but no,

AlphabetSoupcon · 31/08/2018 13:50

The View is a professionally staged show, not a bunch of bitter women talking about stuff they’d thought of when drunk.

NancyDonahue · 31/08/2018 13:55

Whoopie Goldberg was on Loose Women not so long ago and her professionalism shone out of her. She was charming, eloquent, clever and dignified and had everyone in the palm of her hand. I'd love to hear more from her. Does anyone know if we can get The View in the UK?

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