To think the n word needs to be completely banned

[LardLizard]

Rodrigo removed from the B.B. house

I think the meaning of the word has a different meaning in these current times

I personally hate the term and thinknit should be totally banned

But can see why it’s confussing for younger people with it in so many pop songs

What an utterly revolting term you use in your final sentence. You clearly do not object to insulting christians. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Indeed, the irony is probably lost on him/her! Interesting how the ‘left’ morphs into ‘right-wing’ bigotry the more extreme it gets, and without any realisation it is doing it!

BarnabyBungle

Thanks for that. When I saw I had been quoted, I assumed I was going to be told off. Lol

BitchQueen90 You are very right. I really don't get why people are even bothering fighting over a word?!

Do you struggle with critical thinking or something? Yes, all black people can use it.

OK, wasn't sure if it was attributed to a specific race - just because white people refer to any black person as a n*gger I'm not sure how an African would react to being called it by a West Indian - given the gang rivalry & aggro between the different communities here in the UK I didn't think it was as black & white as you say it is....

(BTW, I'm only blanking the word because otherwise MN will delete the whole post.....)

Do you struggle with critical thinking or something?

Oh! forgot to say - are you always this stressed?

Calm down dear.....

@Worldpeace123

Honestly. It's ridiculous.

@WoWsers16
Because we’re not all the same.
I’m black not white plus female not male,
it’s about respecting each other’s differences and having equality of opportunity.
I’m really unsure why you desperately want to use a word that causes a lot of hurt.
I was made aware by a mum that some of the black boys age 11-14 use it among themselves in a mixed but prodominetly white School, all the boys get on well my sons best friend is white but the children seem to know that a word can cause really negative feelings if used by the wrong person.
To be clear I’ve told my son not to use this term as I find it offensive and have no wish to “reclaim” it.

I think also, that it's ignorant to assume that all white people have always a much easier life than all black people purely because they are white, and that people with white skin have never been treated badly by anyone, enslaved, or treated like shit by other classes or races. Some people need to educate themselves! (When they have finished accusing white people of being racist, because they don't fall in line with their frothing leftie views!)

This isn't what white privilege means. White privilege doesn't mean that your life is automatically better than a black person's or that you don't have any problems. However the problems and barriers you face will never or hardly ever be because of the colour of your skin. That's the difference, so maybe you should educate yourself instead of telling everyone else that.

So there are people here who say white people must not use this word, but it’s ok for black people to do so? Really? If it’s such a bad word, why are you happy for anyone to use it?

Have you even read the thread?

Honestly, it's amusing to see how het up white people get when they can't say one word where black people in America are expected not to complain about police brutality...

Honestly, it's amusing to see how het up white people get when they can't say one word

We can & do say it - and that's why people get "het up"....

@WorldPeace123

That is not you. That is a stock photo off google/pintrest!!!

She is gorgeous though.

Am I allowed to say that?

Is that OK with the screaming frothers?

Travis Scott (black rapper) let a white fan at a concert rap along on mix with him using the N word because they were the lyrics. Afterward he said he was happy the white guy did it, because people didn't ever want to see us "*iggaring together" or something like that. He said it was about the music and the support etc.
Not a bit like Kendrick Lamar.

I think context matters. We read Huckleberry Finn in college. The teacher didn't say "only the black kiss in the class can write or say that word". She was white FFS, and every kid had to read extracts from the book at some point in class, of course they could blank the word if they felt like it. Most of the kids in the class were BME (inner London).

He actively encouraged him actually

Audio is better here and you can see was TD said at the end.

@BarnabyBungle

Indeed, the irony is probably lost on him/her! Interesting how the ‘left’ morphs into ‘right-wing’ bigotry the more extreme it gets, and without any realisation it is doing it!

Yes indeed. I see waaaaay more hatred and vitriol on here from the frothing, PC, far left, than I do from people who are right-wing, slightly right of centre, (or even slightly left of centre,) or right in the middle.

Some posts on here have been vile and ugly (from the far left/PC brigade,) and it makes me laugh how they are so incensed when they get a post (or 3!) deleted!!! Like 'just how DARE mumsnet delete my posts, when I am such a good person who is quite understandably scolding these nasty thick racists on here!'

I have had a post deleted, that was actually quite innocuous, but I don't care. The frothers probably got angry and ganged up to report it, to get it deleted LOL!

@rosewhitetips

Exactly. This poster needs to get a grip. Ranting at other people is making her look very silly.

Agree!

Sophia99
And how exactly do you come to the conclusion it's not her?!!!!
Just because it's on Pinterest? That is a real human being, and unless you know who the subject is, you really have no right to dispute it.

@MissQuad

Ghanagirl

I don’t want to use it- I’ve said in previous posts I don’t want to use it and never had- all I’m saying is why is it a word (or any word) that some people can say and others can’t. Surely any word in the English language can be used by anyone - and the fact that this is my opinion - not a racist one- but an opinion on certain words.
Personally- being a woman I don’t like the race for life that happens- as I think it’s unfair men can’t do it. There would be uproar if there was a man only race as such. These are just my views. Other people have been much more articulate in how they’ve put them across - but I have never and will never use that word- just think it’s rediculous that some can and some can’t x

As a black women myself, I’d be offended if anyone called me the N word. It’s a disgusting word and so is racism. Black or white there is good and bad in every race. Some people are just idiots but some people are amazing.

Cherrygardenst
That's how I teach it when I do of mice and men. The word is there in the text. We do lots of historical study etc. I think reading the actual word and the discomfort it creates makes the point of how offensive it is quite well. We discuss Steinbeck's feelings about 1930s racism and his message. Students have the option to say it when reading or to blank it.

I've never had a student be offensive or silly with it in class (even with challenging classes) and it's always been a source of really interesting discussion (often including contemporary use of the word and whether words can be reclaimed etc.)

it very much sounds to me like you're trying to police what POC can or can't say.
Far from it.
I have an issue with a toxic breed of masculinity which normalised violence, homophobia and misogyny.

I have an issue with ANY misogyny or homophobia. The colour of the speaker's skin does not give them a free pass.

Any man who promotes the idea that women are objects for a man's sexual gratification, calling them bitches and whores is out of order.

Unless of course you think normalizing violence, gun crime, homophobia and misogyny is perfectly fine, in which case there's very little point discussing further.

My problematic favourite is Eminem. Doesn't say the N word, but very homophobic and misogynistic. And violent. Loved him since about 11 tho.

We can & do say it - and that's why people get "het up"

Aye, and I bet you choose your audience first, eh, Well ‘ard?

I’d be offended if anyone called me the N word

If used as an insult, of course it’s always unacceptable, but why can’t we even write the word when discussing it or using it in historical context. Treating it like “Voldemort” in Harry Potter is ridiculous and infantile.