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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To just leave infant DS with XH to get on with?

107 replies

Rtmhwales · 18/08/2018 22:26

I’ll try to keep this as succinct as possible but I’m really struggling with what to do in this situation, and it just keeps getting more and more complex.

Married DH in June 2017. I was living abroad in the UK when I met him. Five months into the marriage he decided he didn’t want to be married anymore and in fact wanted to go back to living with his parents forever (at 30..) and more of less sent me packing back to my country. Two weeks later I had a positive pregnancy test. I told him over the phone and he said to get an abortion and that I was ruining his life.

Nothing until February when I forwarded some scans to him and ILs (who I had a lovely relationship with prior to the end) of DS. They said they were opting out as it was in XH’s best interests for them to support him and not me and unborn DS. He made some noises about wanting to involved but then heard nothing from him again for months, and then it was only to sort out finances and a divorce ASAP.

DS arrived at 31weeks and spent a month in the NICU. Informed XH, seemed to have triggered something in him and he said he wanted to come see DS. Then nothing. He has been in occasional contact with me to set up child maintenance and query divorce items but has asked about DS literally once. He said there is zero point in asking after his DS until DS is of an age to answer him himself on Skype or similar..

Talking to him is draining. Our conversations have broken down and numerous gems have been lobbied at me including:

  • he sees zero issue with telling DS he wanted to abort him if he ever asks because abortion is a normal solution to unplanned pregnancy.
  • he has said numerous times there’s zero point in seeing DS before he’s 5 because babies don’t need or remember their fathers before then.
  • when he decided he was coming to meet DS, he booked it without consulting me for September when DS is 4 months old so he doesn’t have to change holiday plans..
  • he originally told me he didn’t want me around with him and newborn DS because if I could figure out how to handle a newborn, then surely he’d be fine.
  • he routinely takes 3-4 weeks to reply to any emails I send, and if we do speak on the phone he constantly sighs and sounds hard done by. His most recent conversation he insisted I’m being awkward and difficult by offering to bring DS to the UK once or twice a year at my own expense so he can have a relationship with his dad. Apparently I’m being bossy and controlling by insisting if he sees DS it should be somewhat regular consistent contact.

Apologies for the novel, but now he’s decided I must be there to help him look after DS for the week he has booked to be here (without discussing it with me..) because DS “won’t know him and will probably make strange at him”.

AIBU to simply say no? I’m torn between being sick at leaving DS with his father if his father doesn’t know how to properly care for a newborn (he will be 2 months old corrected age by then), and thinking I shouldn’t be sacrificing my mental health by being around XH for hours on end for an entire week when he originally seemed to think taking care of a newborn on his own with no infant experience would go off without a hitch.

I’m at a total loss here on what to do and would love some outside perspective on how to balance the needs of everyone involved. What would you do?

OP posts:
SchnitzelVonKrumm · 18/08/2018 22:29

I see no benefit to your DS from having this man in his life.

acquiescence · 18/08/2018 22:29

Is this a joke? You would consider leaving your young baby with a man you barely know and who doesn’t know, who has no experience with babies, and who is asking for help? Have a read about the third trimester.
And yes, stay for that week.

Branleuse · 18/08/2018 22:29

Bin him off. An absent father is better than one that runs hot and cold and you cant rely on.
I think youve done all you can and you shouldnt feel obliged to do more. He is a total headfuck and completely bizarre

NapQueen · 18/08/2018 22:31

At such a small age I would insist on remaining with ds at all times. You are his primary source of comfort and food (even if ffing).

Id suggest short frequent visits at your convenience then he can go back to wherever he is staying (please tell me not with you!).

An hour in the morning, a short afternoon stroll round the park, help at bathtime. With you there.

Though anything more than ignoring him completely forever is being very hospitable imo!

Rtmhwales · 18/08/2018 22:33

@SchnitzelVonKrumm Neither do I, but I’m not sure what options I’d have to stop him from seeing his child, nor am I certain I want to tell DS at any point I prevented him and his father from having a relationship.

@acquiescence I should’ve been more clear, I was with my husband for a year and a half before we married so I’d known him for two years. He seems to think he’s entitled to see DS for 8+ hours a day for the entire week he’s here and newborns don’t do much so I don’t know how my mental health is going to survive sitting around with my XH and I do think he has a point he can figure it out if I could. But then I feel sick at the notion. What would you suggest I do in this situation?

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Tomorrowillbeachicken · 18/08/2018 22:34

Just go NC with this wanker

MillieMoodle · 18/08/2018 22:34

I don't think I'd bother trying to facilitate any relationship at all. Your XH clearly isn't interested. I wouldn't bother with updates or emailing him, especially not if it is stressing you out. No way would I leave a newborn baby with him on his own for even a second. I wouldn't want him to visit at all.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 18/08/2018 22:35

I also would never leave a child with this ‘man’

MillieMoodle · 18/08/2018 22:35

Just go NC with this wanker

Actually, just this ^

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/08/2018 22:36

You and your baby are better off without him.

He sounds peculiar and changeable to the point of potentially being a bit dangerous.

Of the many things he’s said the key theme is that he doesn’t want to be involved at all and holds no goodwill towards your child at all.

You don’t need to agree to any contact at this point and if you cancel the visit I doubt he’ll bother to try again. That’s probably for the best.

You’re doing well on your own. Think about how strong you’ve been and what you and your baby have got through together already. You’re a family. You’ve had nothing but grief from your shameful ex and he’s adding nothing but stress to your life now at a unique precious time when you’re getting to know each other and starting your life together.

Rtmhwales · 18/08/2018 22:37

@MillieMoodle I’ve asked him not to come and he’s already said that’s not happening and I can’t deny him access to “his” DS. I’m not sure legally where I would stand on that anyway. I haven’t updated him on anything in a month but am trying to decide how to respond to this latest email where he’s basically demanded I be there with DS 8+ hours a day.

OP posts:
Eloisedublin123 · 18/08/2018 22:37

No contact.

Rtmhwales · 18/08/2018 22:38

I can’t go NC as we are still sorting out the divorce. It’s complicated between two countries and a new baby. As such, we’ve only exchanged emails about six times since I found out I was pregnant and only spoken on the phone four times.

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ButchyRestingFace · 18/08/2018 22:41

Why are you trying to force a relationship between your baby and this wanker?

I'd be thanking my lucky stars he doesn't seem to want contact.

Rtmhwales · 18/08/2018 22:41

Going NC doesn’t help the upcoming situation. What is to stop him from coming here and showing up at my house to see DS? I need to figure out what to do while he’s here and then deal with the long term after. It’s just so stressful and I don’t know how not to make a misstep and mess up DS or myself.
I’ve even offered to hire a newborn nanny to be with them both so DS is well looked after but he shot that down and honestly it’s probably just me grasping at straws.

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niknac1 · 18/08/2018 22:42

If it was me I would not encourage this relationship but it really is your decision alone because you will have to be satisfied you’ve made the right decision. My reasoning would be mine, I would also be reluctant to let him tell my child he wanted to abort him as that isn’t something I would be happy or comfortable with.
If you decide you don’t want him in your child’s life I expect if you stop your side of the communication he won’t be persistent and it will eventually stop. Only you can decide though, I’m not saying my impression is right.

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 18/08/2018 22:44

how does he kjow your address?

Can you gomstay with friends the week he is planning on coming over?

AJPTaylor · 18/08/2018 22:44

Can his parents come with him?
You cant leave him alone with ds.
He will probably realise that babies are boring and will never be seen again.
Dont feel its up to you to cajole him into contact.

Longdistance · 18/08/2018 22:44

Why do you keep pushing for contact?

He’s not interested, he’s a grown man. I wouldn’t let him have contact now, if he couldn’t be bothered before.

He adds no advantage to your ds’s life.

NapQueen · 18/08/2018 22:44

Is there anywhere you and ds could go for that week? Just dont be in.

Toofle · 18/08/2018 22:45

Is his name on the birth certificate?

LeroyJenkins · 18/08/2018 22:45

Where are you op?

Branleuse · 18/08/2018 22:46

You do not have to do this

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/08/2018 22:46

You could offer him an hour a day for 3 days of the week he’s here, insist you or someone you nominate is there as well and refuse to discuss anything else.

Or as already suggested, be away and communicate as necessary by email.

MadeForThis · 18/08/2018 22:47

If he shows up you don't have to let him in. You certainly don't have to let him stay for 8 hours. The baby will be sleeping mostly.

Meet him at a park of coffee shop for an hour or so each day.

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