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AIBU?

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To just leave infant DS with XH to get on with?

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Rtmhwales · 18/08/2018 22:26

I’ll try to keep this as succinct as possible but I’m really struggling with what to do in this situation, and it just keeps getting more and more complex.

Married DH in June 2017. I was living abroad in the UK when I met him. Five months into the marriage he decided he didn’t want to be married anymore and in fact wanted to go back to living with his parents forever (at 30..) and more of less sent me packing back to my country. Two weeks later I had a positive pregnancy test. I told him over the phone and he said to get an abortion and that I was ruining his life.

Nothing until February when I forwarded some scans to him and ILs (who I had a lovely relationship with prior to the end) of DS. They said they were opting out as it was in XH’s best interests for them to support him and not me and unborn DS. He made some noises about wanting to involved but then heard nothing from him again for months, and then it was only to sort out finances and a divorce ASAP.

DS arrived at 31weeks and spent a month in the NICU. Informed XH, seemed to have triggered something in him and he said he wanted to come see DS. Then nothing. He has been in occasional contact with me to set up child maintenance and query divorce items but has asked about DS literally once. He said there is zero point in asking after his DS until DS is of an age to answer him himself on Skype or similar..

Talking to him is draining. Our conversations have broken down and numerous gems have been lobbied at me including:

  • he sees zero issue with telling DS he wanted to abort him if he ever asks because abortion is a normal solution to unplanned pregnancy.
  • he has said numerous times there’s zero point in seeing DS before he’s 5 because babies don’t need or remember their fathers before then.
  • when he decided he was coming to meet DS, he booked it without consulting me for September when DS is 4 months old so he doesn’t have to change holiday plans..
  • he originally told me he didn’t want me around with him and newborn DS because if I could figure out how to handle a newborn, then surely he’d be fine.
  • he routinely takes 3-4 weeks to reply to any emails I send, and if we do speak on the phone he constantly sighs and sounds hard done by. His most recent conversation he insisted I’m being awkward and difficult by offering to bring DS to the UK once or twice a year at my own expense so he can have a relationship with his dad. Apparently I’m being bossy and controlling by insisting if he sees DS it should be somewhat regular consistent contact.

Apologies for the novel, but now he’s decided I must be there to help him look after DS for the week he has booked to be here (without discussing it with me..) because DS “won’t know him and will probably make strange at him”.

AIBU to simply say no? I’m torn between being sick at leaving DS with his father if his father doesn’t know how to properly care for a newborn (he will be 2 months old corrected age by then), and thinking I shouldn’t be sacrificing my mental health by being around XH for hours on end for an entire week when he originally seemed to think taking care of a newborn on his own with no infant experience would go off without a hitch.

I’m at a total loss here on what to do and would love some outside perspective on how to balance the needs of everyone involved. What would you do?

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Booboostwo · 19/08/2018 10:16

You are ina country with alienation laws and your lawyer has already warned you about this. This should be a main consideration and not listen to what some people on this thread might say who only have experience of the U.K. legal system.

Do everything through your lawyer and with his advice. He must have some idea of what contact arrangements are reasonable for such a young baby. Set up a contact schedule and let your lawyer pass it to his lawyer. Stick to the schedule and record any deviations from the schedule by your ex.

violets17 · 19/08/2018 11:45

I'll tell you my story in case it is at all useful to you. I married an American, I'm British and we had a child in USA. When DS was 1 we split up and I brought baby back to UK. DS is now 28 and still has a relationship with his father. XH and I couldn't stand each other for years and it was a major PITA for me. I was very worried all the time that he would snatch him but that turned out to be unfounded. It was difficult for DS and one visit when he was 2.5 and didn't understand where I was has damaged him with attachment issues. All other visits had been with me in tow up to that point and then again until he was about 5 and could understand where I was and could speak to me properly on the phone. DS does still have a relationship with his father and it is important to him. I wish that visit without me hadn't happened though.

ThePants999 · 19/08/2018 13:54

Don't leave someone with zero experience of children with a tiny baby all day long, no one does that. They really don't.

Except, of course, that's exactly what hospitals do every day when they discharge first-time mothers. And yet, somehow, you don't read many stories of newborns dying because their parents didn't know what to do with them.

Foodylicious · 19/08/2018 14:21

Have you answered already-

  • if someone can stay with you for the week?
  • where is he staying?
heartsease68 · 19/08/2018 15:14

I disagree with those who are saying you should cut contact. I'm sorry he's such a dud but there is no reason to cut a father out of his child's life here (not that you have to hold his hand and encourage him either).

I would explain bluntly that you can't face the thought of being together 8 hours a day but are happy to be there 2-3 hours with him while he bonds with his son.

You were wrong to consider leaving your son with him. Don't entertain the thought of unsupervised contact for a long, long time.

Pilgit · 19/08/2018 15:33

Contact should be about what is best for the child. At this age that's little and often without this main source of comfort being cut off from them. I'm sorry your EXH doesn't see that! Talk to your lawyer about what contact would be seen as acceptable and work from there. Then couch everything with EXH in light of what is best for the child. He doesn't have a child. He has no idea what to do. I'm sure he could figure it out but in so doing he baby will go through a lot of stress. I really hope it goes well for you.

Rtmhwales · 20/08/2018 18:13

@MotherWilliam That is literally what we all think happened. I have zero worries he’d run off with my child and he was never abusive. I think he just got overwhelmed with adult life and tried to enter it too late and then took too much on. I can’t stand talking to him and dread being around him, but we all think it was done out of immaturity and fear rather than outright malice.

@ThePants999
That’s exactly his argument, and why I queried it here because I can see the reasoning behind it. In all fairness, the NICU discharged a tiny preemie (35 weeks gestation by the time they discharged DS, he’s just hit his due date this week) to me without any sense of how I could take care of a newborn solo. You do figure it out, and at 2 month’s corrected age and on a routine already which I can write down, XH thinks he’s could manage. Or rather thought. He’s changed his mind again. So that was the thinking there.

@Foodylicious He’s staying at a local hotel. My brother has offered to stay with me and DS. He’s obsessed with his nephew and less endeared of my ex.

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