AIBU to wonder why Corbyn hasn't got the boot yet?

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After all this recent stuff. Please could we have someone else and make labour electable again. Why is he still there and do we think he still will be for the forseeable?

It's nonsense again to suggest Corbyn was negotiating peace terms with the IRA, presumably on behalf of the UK govt! Why do people who support Corbyn say such obviously false things?

Funny how ghost disappears from the threads when they're asked to answer any kind of question, instead of blunders on about the MSM and right wing smears and neoliberalist consensus

Yes it is funny but I wince at the name now. Let's enjoy a thread moment free of spirits.

JC may or may not have helped peace

He didn't help.

As someone who also had a family member killed in Iraq please don't use their death to try and gain political points.

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Exellent post at 15.04

I'm old. JC had NOTHING to do with the peace process in NI. Trying to take the credit from a dead woman- Mo Mowlem. Typical of this creep.

So mumsnet isn't the demographic for Corbyn-there's a surprise!!!
A lot of people like Jeremy Corbin an awful lot.
Sickening as it may be for people on here, it is true.
I hope none of you have to be at the sharp edge of the cruel Tory policies in your life times because it's not s pretty place to be.

Anyone need a new job? labour.org.uk/about/work-with-us/current-vacancies/current-vacancy-head-disputes/

The Labour Party is looking to recruit an Head of Disputes, who will be responsible for overseeing procedures related to internal disputes and disciplinary affairs, including undertaking investigations as necessary.

The successful candidate will have a thorough understanding of the rules and constitution of The Labour Party, including membership and disciplinary procedures. The role holder should have experience of conducting investigations or fact-finding, and advising and working in a political environment. The individual will also have the ability to lead and manage a busy team.

Nanny actually mn is known for being heavily left leaning.

And I'm still recovering actually from blunt labour policies. And I voted them in. Anything is better than Blair.

@Nanny. Just because we don't like Corbyn doesn't mean we fully or even support the Tories at all.

I find what they're doing to our public services horrible and how they've affects so many families and put so many into poverty.

However I still won't vote Labour with Corbyn their. And lots not forget it's Labour who helped wreck the UK economy...

The Labour Party is looking to recruit an Head of Disputes, who will be responsible for overseeing procedures related to internal disputes and disciplinary affairs, including undertaking investigations as necessary

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear ... what was that posters were saying about poisoned chalices?

@Nannyplumshairstyle - I have been on the sharp end of Tory policies- Thatcher's policies. When the Labour Party were in thrall to the same kind of shit and no one wanted to vote for them. They were in opposition so long and up their own arses with this sort of crap that it was that Tories who got rid of Thatcher not the electorate- which it should have been.
I remember getting a careers talk when we were told that, thanks to Thatcher, we may never have a decent job. Dreadful thing to say to impressionable 15 year olds but that's what happens when the Opposition are a bunch of unelectable tossers,

The UK economy was wrecked by the banks. THE BANKS. IT WAS THE BANKS THAT WRECKED the U.K. Economy. Don't you remember? It wasn't long ago!!!

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear ... what was that posters were saying about poisoned chalices?

It's the very definition isn't it?

No they just did massive uncontrollable borrowing leaving us with massive deficit and debt.

Like I said I was a Labour supporter, and have what the Tories are doing, but I stand by my choice to think Corbyn is a mysogenistic, anti Semitic prick that has no clue how to lead a party. He lost a general election against a party that didn't bother to even properly campaign. He is not holding the government accountable and is sitting on the sidelined letting the country go to shit.

So in the meantime I will vote lib dems and be happy in my vote.

So mumsnet isn't the demographic for Corbyn-there's a surprise!!!
A lot of people like Jeremy Corbin an awful lot.
Sickening as it may be for people on here, it is true.
I hope none of you have to be at the sharp edge of the cruel Tory policies in your life times because it's not s pretty place to be.

Strange, if you are a regular reader/lurker on MN you must know it is not a predominantly Tory place, at least not in terms of who is vocal about political issues.

Mysteriously, quite a lot of Corbyn supporters who turn up to post here don't seem to be regular readers or users of MN. Not sure what that's all about.

That aside, it's probably mainly traditional Labour voters who have been let down most egregiously by the Labour Party, both now when Corbyn is in the business of selfishly crippling it, not doing his job, presiding over filthy behaviour, and in the past by Brown/Blair and the Labour Party they oversaw. The traditional Labour vote has been tossed aside and lacks representation.

@Nannyplumshairstyle - my dad once confronted the blessed Tony Benn and said " don't you think we should nationalise the banks?". The blessed Anthony Wedgewood Benn's response? "oh, I don't think we should do that ".
These people are just playing at being radical. JC is the same sort. It's a big pose to them. They get young acolytes to boost their ego but couldn't run a village fete.

jasjas it sounds as if you're trying to make out that Corbyn is responsible for peace in NI, which he is not.

I haven't got a pro Tory agenda I would like to see a centrist sensible Labour leader ie one who I would vote for, rather than a left wing 'student union' type who I think is not only useless but anti semitic.

To all those who love JC - aren't you getting the message? Anyone who isn't one of his worshippers isn't going to start any time soon. Which means Labour will never get elected with him as leader. Is this what you want?

I hope none of you have to be at the sharp edge of the cruel Tory policies in your life times because it's not s pretty place to be.

I have been.

HTH

A lot of people like Jeremy Corbin an awful lot.
Sickening as it may be for people on here, it is true.
I hope none of you have to be at the sharp edge of the cruel Tory policies in your life times because it's not s pretty place to be.

Yes. And there's a lot of people who loathe the Tories and desperately want a leader of the opposition who actually provides a meaningful opposition to this car crash of a Tory government

Who loathe Tory policies and want to see them out of office

But who know that unless Corbyn tries to focus on the people who don't already like him an awful lot, and instead keeps feeding the momentum echo chamber, there's bugger all chance of ousting the Tories

Elections are won and lost in marginal seats, and persuading floating voters to change allegiance

TM didn't even turn up to the last election and he still lost. A lot of people might like him, but unless it's enough to get enough of a swing to a Labour majority, there's no chance of ousting the Tories

The Labour Party is looking to recruit an Head of Disputes, who will be responsible for overseeing procedures related to internal disputes and disciplinary affairs, including undertaking investigations as necessary.

I bet the Momentum wokey blokeys are disappointed that they can’t bring back Matthew Hopkins from beyond the grave, he’d be just the ticket.

Corbyn and others on the left have been on the side of history, be it South Africa, the IRA, opposition to the Iraq war, Libya.

When you cherry pick scenarios and pretend he had any influence it is nothing more than a stopped clock situation.

You could look at his parliamentary career as voting alongside the Tories to oppose a large proportion of Labours policies, we could eek out the mental gymnastics as to how he could be on the right side of history regarding credit, 3 line whip, wanting a referendum, and voting against any policy that was further integration, but as I guess our can dismiss them in some roundabout whataboutry

For a lot of people who despise the Tories this is why Corbyn makes them so angry. They want someone who is electable and is an effective and realistic alternative. Currently the Tories can do what they like without any fear.

Regarding Brexit ..