AIBU to wonder why Corbyn hasn't got the boot yet?

[marsbarsandtwix]

After all this recent stuff. Please could we have someone else and make labour electable again. Why is he still there and do we think he still will be for the forseeable?

JC is only interested in his own cred. I'm old enough to have seen poseurs like this before, lapping up support from naive earnest people who think that no one else has ever thought about peace and love before. All the while sucking up to and giving comfort to violent evil bastards. Because it looks cool and edgy. Arse wipe.

Jeremy Corbyn is the only politician genuinely interested in creating peace.

The people that think this view the world in very simplistic black and white terms.

It's why they are easily hoodwinked by populists.

Jeremy Corbyn is the only politician genuinely interested in creating peace.
I don't believe that for a moment.

Still, while he is around New Labour cannot kill anyone or destroy anything because they can't get elected, so in a way he is managing to do that.

Corbyn is the ultimate brocialist, his Labour seem overly involved in victim hierarchies, and unless you're the right sort they aren't particularly interested.
As in the above point about Rotherham.
They seem quick enough to jump on women within the Party if they step out of line with the Trans agenda even if they are just flagging up the women's right issues, but then unbelievably slow at disciplining those who make anti Semitic comments. Says it all.

Jeremy Corbyn is the only politician genuinely interested in creating peace.
He just believes that you can't fight fire with fire and that there has to be a respectful dialogue in order to come to peace.
He is a groundbreaking man like Tony Benn was and one day in the future (hopefully in my lifetime) we will see just how much sanity he brings.
He also deals with media smearing with zen-like grace.

How is he genuinely interested in creating peace? Not with rich people, jewish people, women. He's a terrorist sympathiser. Ok he wants to abandon nuclear weapons, a move which would be spectacularly stupid at this moment in history imo.But I don't see him as a peaceful man at all.

marsbarsandtwix He really is not a terrorist sympathiser. unless you read and believe the Daily Mail if so, you deserve everything coming to you.
You have to engage in dialogue with people in order to solve problems without lives being unnecessarily lost.

So how does he bring peace?

And what's ground breaking about him?

nannyplumshairstyle. When you say JC deals with media smearing with ‘zen like grace’ have you actually watched any of his cringeworthy, eye rolling, fumbling interviews this week I.e the ones where he’s changed his story three times?

Isn't it odd how British politics and American politics are in some ways like mirror images of each other.

Fake news, Zen-like Grace. 🤣

He really is quite literally a terrorist sympathiser. He certainly sympathised with the IRA for example.

It’s nonsense to repeat his line that he was just engaging with the enemy to make peace. As has been said time and again, does he ever engage with Israeli politicians he disagrees with for example? Of course not. He engages with the side he supports.

The truth is that he is on the side of the IRA and of the PLO and Hamas. I think the facts speak for themselves on this. In general he is on the other side of anyone anti-Western or anti Imperialist as he would see it.

"He's won the Nobel Peace Prize" 😄

I meant he is on the side of anyone anti-Western...

nanny I don't read the daily mail I think he is a terrorist sympathiser because of his support for the IRA, to give just one example. That is well documented.

You have to engage in dialogue with people in order to solve problems without lives being unnecessarily lost

And when actual people involved in the GF process say that JC had no involvement and he is yet to engage in any dialogue that is not just the tired old anti west sentiment it shows the lack of knowledge of geopolitics and politics in general

Corbyn promised, on national TV, to engage with women about the worries they may have with the trans agenda, did he? of course he didn't.
Does he speak with the Israeli politicians to see their side to open up a 'meaningful dialogue'.Nope.
Usual antics of someone who gobs off about how great they are, virtue signalling to all and sundry, but who's actions reveal who they really are.

I wonder how long Corbyn supporters can talk about the press manipulating coverage? The print press is dying in the face of social media. They are trusted by less than 40% of the population at best. It was up to Labour to go into traditional Labour areas and explain the benefits of the EU to the working class if indeed that's what they believed (which Corbyn never has). It's up to them to speak to the voters they lost to UKIP and the SNP and even the Tories. Without doing that, Labour won't win. There are a million ways they can get their point of view across but instead they are alienating large groups of moderates and the centre left to appease Momentum and the hard left. They can say and do whatever they like, blame the right wing press until they are blue in the face while the Tories happily bluster from one disaster to another, safe in the knowledge that we have no effective opposition.

He is a groundbreaking man like Tony Benn He's not fit to polish Tony Benn's boots.

He also deals with media smearing with zen-like grace.

Unless you ask him a question, then he sighs and rolls his eyes like a child having a strip.

*strop not strip.

Corbyn and others on the left have been on the side of history, be it South Africa, the IRA, opposition to the Iraq war, Libya... how many 1000s would have been saved if we d not interfered? or if you don't care about Iraqis, 100s of UK soldiers would still be alive, how much is the current terrorist threat & migration down to actions taken by the right?

JC may or may not have helped peace, its hardly likely Major or Blair would give him any credit but no one is suggesting he has hindered either.

Meanwhile, the right support the Saudis and their murderous ways, i know what i'd prefer.

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If they went into trad labour areas that voted to leave to try and explain why Europe is good they will hemorrhage voters who want to return to them.
Rather than trying to explain to Labour voters why their vote was wrong, why don't they start to listen and understand their vote.

Like some Labour politicians already do. Honestly!!

@marsbarsandtwix
would you care to share this evidence of support for the IRA, as opposed to Sinn fein?
Or are you also saying Major and Blair are also Terrorist sympathisers? or the Rev Ian Paisley?

I'm sure some on here would prefer for the UK to have 20,000 troops back in Ulster and bombs going off in Birmingham, just we can say we don't negotiate with terrorists... so long as its not their kids getting killed.

I always think he sounds like he is digging deep to control himself when talking to media.

He lost me when he was saying in that odd quiet voice, he wants to promote peaceful politics.

That was shortly before momentum put a brick through Ruth's window when she wanted to do leadership contest.