To think Boris Johnson should be be thrown out of Tory party?

[crunchymint]

He is clearly racist. He should be thrown out of the Conservative party.

Singlenotsingle There is nothing remotely funny about Boris Johnson - unless you fall for his bumbling persona. Listen to his words, watch his actions - he is a dangerous and self-serving ego-maniac.

he said women in burkas looked ridiculous and compared them to bank robbers and letterboxes

Isn't that his opinion? What has that got to do with racism?

fangirl it is racist.

You probably want to fucking learn the difference.

Imagine if a Labour Party member had said something about yarmulkes looking silly! Fucking hell.

It's bloody terrifying that people can be so openly racist now. People think they can say anything if it's their "opinion", to the point of rebuffing facts.

If he gets kicked out I reckon he'll form his own, ultra-right party. And people will vote for him. :(

Is he vying for Prince Philip's role as the UK's number 1 bigot? He's a disgrace. He should be thrown out, but he won't be, because the whole party's riddled with Islamophobia.

Uterus Yes, I agree. I think he is testing the water to forming his own party, probably with Gove and Smogg.

Boris Johnson is the epitome of the Tory party.

YABU to expect them to have any kind of moral standards.

surely racism stems from people's opinions.

He and Corbyn certainly get judged by very different standards.

Imagine Corbyn making an unflattering comparison about Jewish women wearing the mitpachat.

I can’t work Boris out. He seems to be like someone’s annoying teenager who says ridiculous things for attention.

He won’t get thrown out and he shouldn’t be. Otherwise Corbyn would have to their himself out of the Labour Party.

I thought his comments about letter box and bank robber were inexplicable but I also find burkas wholly mysogynistic and oppressive with no religious foundations. They are a fairly new phenomenon and are obviously designed by men to keep women under control.

I don’t find it racist to say such things. Burkas have nothing whatsoever to do with race or religion. No religious teachings requires this dress code. None.

Boris is not stupid.

He makes some valid points about the oppressiveness and misogyny of garments such as the burka, but the tone of the article was deliberate, calculated ‘dog-whistle’ politics.

We can now expect weeks of the unedifying spectacle of left-wing antisemitic racists and right-wing Islamophobic racists hurling abuse at one another.

A plague on both their houses.

People do get racism mixed up. The wearing of s burkas are not confined to any race. Anyone can wear one as anyone can wear shorts or a wig.

No religious instruction requires this. It’s not islsmophobic to say you consider the burka mysogynistic. It’s a dress code. It would be racist and stupid to say ‘all black people can run fast’

It would be racist to hate anyone on the color of their skin or their race. That’s a given. Religion and clothes are a choice.

I don't think it's racist to have a discussion about the burka itself. Although it is a bit contradictory to tell a woman what they can't wear, in order to prevent her being told what to wear. But you can have that discussion without comparing a Muslim woman to a bank robber or reducing her to an inanimate object. Boris used those examples purely to appeal to the anti muslim vote in this country. A very dangerous route to go down and shocking from someone in the current ruling party.

BonnieF

Yes I agree with you.

I have never seen such divisiveness in this country since the Thatcher and Kinnock years or such hate.

Wonder why he didn't think it odd when he dressed up in a ridiculous Bullingdon Club costume.

I think Boris Johnson and a lot of politicians should just be thrown out of parliament. But hey ho what can you do.

Islam is not a race, but islamaphobia is racism's sibling and unfortunately on the rise in this country.

He makes some valid points about the oppressiveness and misogyny of garments such as the burka, but the tone of the article was deliberate, calculated ‘dog-whistle’ politics.

This.

And the very fact that it is Boris Johnson (the man who signed an NDA with his former intern) making comments about misogyny merely trivialises any point he might have been purporting to make anyway.

If he’s not stupid he’s desperate.

I think he thought he would have ousted Theresa by now and he hasn’t. He’s using every trick in the book to try but what he doesn’t seem to realise, being an old Etonian, is that the vast majority of the county although less wealthy than him are not stupid. They saw his utter fuck up of his home sec role and realise him being PM would be disastrous as he’s a publicity seeking vacuous twat. He has no moral compass.

He’s desperate so that’s probably a good thing. If he had stuck to being mayor only Londoners would have realised how unfitted to politics he was but now the country does.

Back to the spectator I think

He is appalling and should have been sacked long ago.

Isn't that his opinion? What has that got to do with racism?

A person who has opinions that are racist is practising racism.

But you can have that discussion without comparing a Muslim woman to a bank robber or reducing her to an inanimate object.

Exactly!

Diversivness!!! Sorry division! Tired

(adapted from my post on politics thread)
He has purposely picked an 'easy target'.
Lots of people may struggle with the concept of the burka, (which is precisely why he has chosen this as a topic) but it is a complex issue.
But what he knowingly has done is add fuel to and legitimise prejudicial views of people seeking a simple solution.
It is essential to ask why has he done this rather than debate 'Burkas - yes or no?'

People calling this racist are using racism as a shorthand for cultural chauvinism.

Of course you can. His comparison was ridiculous. Jack straw broached the issue in s much more sensible way although he was vilified for it.

SusanWalker

Unfortunately racism occurs in the far left and far right extremes and for some god awful reason we have a far right front bench and a far left shadow front bench.

Both are fuelling racial tensions in the country. Throw in Brexit and it’s frightnimg