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Never Meet Your Heroes - AIBU or was this rude? **Title edited by MNHQ**

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HedgehogPoo · 06/08/2018 23:14

Am I being a wee bit over-sensitive? Please don't flame me too badly as I'm aware that it's not the worst thing in the world and probably no big deal to some people.

A few nights ago I went to see a certain celebrity at a show. OP and I really liked Celeb and I would listen in whenever I heard his voice on the radio. After the show, my other half and I bought two books and stood in line to ask him to sign them. Celeb seemed to be very approachable and chatted to everyone in the queue, signing their books and personalising them with coloured pens. My book choice was based purely on a word in the title that is relevant to me. The words forms part of my Twitter name and is also relevant as it is also the dressing-up outfit that I use when operating as an environmental activist (believe it or not) in a campaign group that I support. A woman worked her way down the queue and wrote down everyone's choice of dedication on a post-it note so that Celeb would be able to read our dedications easily.

He wrote something nice on DP's book, saying that we were 'Gentle protectors of XXX', who is our beloved cat.

When I handed him my book, he wrinkled his nose and repeated the two words on the post-it. He said that in the past, a woman had given him a signature request with very similar wording. He had asked her what those words meant to her and she said that it was a name that she had given herself, so he had told her that she would forget about the reason for those words at a later date and he wasn't going to write them.

He asked me why I had chosen those words and I explained about the environmental campaign. When he asked which campaign, I explained the serious environmental damage that was involved in this fight to protect an important wildlife area and he said that Trump was trying to do similar in the US, without any regard for the environment. So far, so good! The two words on my dedication request were completely inoffensive and uncontroversial in the extreme and would be viewed as positive words.

However, he said that when the previous woman had given him that similar request, he had decided to write a certain word on her dedication instead. He went on to explain that she had been really angry and walked away, refusing to take the book. I did feel uneasy at this point but didn't want to make anything of it so faked amusement and laughed awkwardly at what he was saying. The CF then said that he was going to write the same on my book in addition to my request and when I looked down, he was writing 'Whore' in stencil style, then filled it in in red pen, right in the centre of the page. I was stunned and felt really awful about it but tried to brave it out (fecking hell, are we socialised to be compliant and not make a fuss or what??!!), laugh it off and appear to be cool with it, despite not feeling like laughing at all.

On the way home my partner and I both felt flat and extremely let down by Celeb. My view is that he took complete advantage of his position and wrote an unpleasant and misogynistic word, purely because he could. Celeb is extremely clever and very obviously witty with much of his humour being taken from observations in life. I have no idea why he would have sharpened his claws on me. I am averagely ancient, do not look, talk or behave like an arse and am also not very confident (apart from when wearing my activist kit!), so I know that I couldn't possibly have come over as negative or unpleasant in any way towards him. Why would I, as I had enjoyed seeing the 'Evening with' and was in a great mood as was everyone else.

My partner is really disappointed in Celeb too and he thought that it was an offensive and completely unnecessary thing to do. Our evening was spoiled and I feel humiliated and thoroughly shat upon. Celeb is also quite lucky as if he had done this to many women I know, they would have chewed him up and spat out the remains. It's possible that I was being unreasonable though, as other people may not have been offended.

I now have a book that has been personalised with a word that I find very offensive, that is also really misogynistic and an insult to me and to women generally. A mooch around the internet found that Celeb claims he isn't a misogynist, he is a misanthrope as he hates everyone equally. My partner and I would dispute that!

I know that it would be better if I was annoyed but instead, I felt flat and more than a bit gutted, tbh. There's an old phrase about never meeting your heroes. I should have taken note!

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nakedscientist · 07/08/2018 01:17

Cluedo then,

David Sedaris
Book: Squirrel seeks chipmunk: a modest bestiary

You tell him you protect red squirrels
And want Red Squirrel as the dedication

He writes w*e in red......

( I think it's horrible BTW what ever the 'reason')

MyDirtyLittleSecret · 07/08/2018 01:19

Got it! DH just reminded me, we have a friend who is a celeb (USA) and one time we saw him signing memorabilia for fans after a performance. He was strangely insistent about getting an actual real name not a generic sounding nickname for the dedications and refused to sign anything with just his own name or 'love from XX' on it.

DH asked him why later and he said it's to stop scalpers selling his signed stuff and making a killing on eBay or auctions. See, it's harder to get a good price for something when there a specific name like Sue or Bill in the dedication. Your nickname is probably just generic enough to refer to anyone soit'd still get a good price.

Pwant an autograph that was clearly written to Sue or Paul. trying to avoid you making a killing on eBay by selling a signed copy with a dedication that doesn't have a name

PatrickTheStarfish · 07/08/2018 01:19

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MyDirtyLittleSecret · 07/08/2018 01:21

Sorry ignore the bizarre shit at the end, iPad went bananas so I was retyping I'd already typed and looked like it had disappeared.

MozzieMagnet · 07/08/2018 01:24

Nah, you can get lots of his books signed with just his signature on ebay.

HedgehogPoo · 07/08/2018 01:26

Hmm, that info about fans selling books with generic dedications might well be the answer!

There would be no-one else on this planet that would make the link between the dedication request and That Word, but it would make more sense if Celeb was just trying to spoil the book in case I sold it.

Patrick - if you aren't buying the post, would you like to buy the book? All for a good cause Smile

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HedgehogPoo · 07/08/2018 01:27

Sorry Mozzie, cross post. I'm really slow at this!

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PatrickTheStarfish · 07/08/2018 01:29

Grin you work in pr or marketing don't you Op?

Megansmumsie · 07/08/2018 01:32

The pain of not knowing who it is will keep me up tonight!

Also, dude was an arse, the word is not pleasant and so harsh to see in the book of someone you previously liked.

MyDirtyLittleSecret · 07/08/2018 01:35

Mozzie maybe he's signed like that in the past but once he's learned that some of the books he's signed have been actually intended to be sold by pro ebayers he's now actively trying to prevent it. Took DH's friend a while to catch on to it but now he's really careful about what he writes and always puts who it's for.

gonnabreakmyrustycage · 07/08/2018 01:38

Why wouldn’t you ask him to dedicate it to you (as in, your real name)? Sorry I’m not sure I am understanding what happened!

MyDirtyLittleSecret · 07/08/2018 01:39

Also it occurs to me, OP, the fact you and your DP each had a book would have made it look even more likely that one was keeping and one for selling.

HedgehogPoo · 07/08/2018 01:47

Gonnabreak, I would have done but the book I chose had a particular word in the title that is very relevant to me. It just seemed to be a nice bit of fun and appropriate, but then of course it all went downhill and 'appropriate' in no way describes what Celeb wrote.

Patrick I've managed to get very early retirement and have never worked in either of those areas. I can see a career change ahead though! I could collect rude scribblings by all of the celebs suggested on this post and make a fortune selling them. Or not, as the case may be.

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thegreatbeyond · 07/08/2018 01:48

David Sedaris does seem to favour unorthodox book dedications.

Never Meet Your Heroes - AIBU or was this rude? **Title edited by MNHQ**
thegreatbeyond · 07/08/2018 01:49

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HedgehogPoo · 07/08/2018 01:50

MyDirtyLittleSecret, they were different books. There was a large selection of Celeb's books for sale and we didn't have any of them so were really happy to buy two and have them signed. Sad

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MozzieMagnet · 07/08/2018 01:51

www.ebay.com/bhp/david-sedaris-signed

nah, squirrel for example is 2010 and $17 for a hardback is not extortionate. The more likely explanation is he thought he was being funny.

HarryHarry · 07/08/2018 01:53

OP and I really liked Celeb and I would listen in whenever I heard his voice on the radio

Why would I, as I had enjoyed seeing the 'Evening with' and was in a great mood as was everyone else

My book choice was based purely on a word in the title that is relevant to me. The words forms part of my Twitter name and is also relevant as it is also the dressing-up outfit that I use when operating as an environmental activist (believe it or not) in a campaign group that I support

All the clues in the first post point to it being David Sedaris - he is currently touring in the UK with a show called 'An Evening With...' and he has his own BBC Radio 4 show. He also has a couple of books with animal-related titles. I'm guessing the OP dresses up as a squirrel, a chipmunk or an owl.

Plus, as PP have pointed out, he is known for doing stuff like that.

In a way, I suppose YABU to expect any different from him.

2up2manydown · 07/08/2018 01:57

What a pointless thread.

Someone vandalised your property and you stood there like a wet lettuce smiling and nodding. Then you get home and tell Mumsnet all about it but refuse to say who did it, when you must know posters are ONLY interested in the thread to find out who did it.

What’s the point?

daisychain01 · 07/08/2018 01:58

Sounds like something David Sedaris would do. He does have a warped sense of humour

^ This is him in a nutshell

His Radio 4 shows were excellent, reading his own short stories. I didn't enjoy his live show at all, he was inappropriate and too graphic (not for the faint hearted !). I've had to block out some of the things he said they were really distasteful.

thebewilderness · 07/08/2018 02:02

A mooch around the internet found that Celeb claims he isn't a misogynist, he is a misanthrope as he hates everyone equally. My partner and I would dispute that!

I am sorry he did that to you.

The misanthrope cover ploy is very popular among misogynist.

skippyhappy · 07/08/2018 02:02

Never heard of him but will look him up - great publicist stunt! 👊👏

tessieandoz · 07/08/2018 02:04

Name and shame. Preferably via the press.

HedgehogPoo · 07/08/2018 02:05

It's ok 2up, I don't need to be made to feel any worse about it than I do already.

I'm already fully aware of how useless I can be but in the situation that we found ourselves in, I really wouldn't have felt good about kicking off in any way. I just felt completely stunned and icy inside, but this thread is no more pointless than many others. I also wanted to give my head a wobble if necessary, if other posters thought that what Celeb wrote would have been fine with them. Apparently not.

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SadieHH · 07/08/2018 02:06

What a shitty thing to do to a fan Shock

And, regardless of whether it is him or not, who the hell is David Sedaris?? Never heard of him. Yeah yeah, I could google...