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Never Meet Your Heroes - AIBU or was this rude? **Title edited by MNHQ**

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HedgehogPoo · 06/08/2018 23:14

Am I being a wee bit over-sensitive? Please don't flame me too badly as I'm aware that it's not the worst thing in the world and probably no big deal to some people.

A few nights ago I went to see a certain celebrity at a show. OP and I really liked Celeb and I would listen in whenever I heard his voice on the radio. After the show, my other half and I bought two books and stood in line to ask him to sign them. Celeb seemed to be very approachable and chatted to everyone in the queue, signing their books and personalising them with coloured pens. My book choice was based purely on a word in the title that is relevant to me. The words forms part of my Twitter name and is also relevant as it is also the dressing-up outfit that I use when operating as an environmental activist (believe it or not) in a campaign group that I support. A woman worked her way down the queue and wrote down everyone's choice of dedication on a post-it note so that Celeb would be able to read our dedications easily.

He wrote something nice on DP's book, saying that we were 'Gentle protectors of XXX', who is our beloved cat.

When I handed him my book, he wrinkled his nose and repeated the two words on the post-it. He said that in the past, a woman had given him a signature request with very similar wording. He had asked her what those words meant to her and she said that it was a name that she had given herself, so he had told her that she would forget about the reason for those words at a later date and he wasn't going to write them.

He asked me why I had chosen those words and I explained about the environmental campaign. When he asked which campaign, I explained the serious environmental damage that was involved in this fight to protect an important wildlife area and he said that Trump was trying to do similar in the US, without any regard for the environment. So far, so good! The two words on my dedication request were completely inoffensive and uncontroversial in the extreme and would be viewed as positive words.

However, he said that when the previous woman had given him that similar request, he had decided to write a certain word on her dedication instead. He went on to explain that she had been really angry and walked away, refusing to take the book. I did feel uneasy at this point but didn't want to make anything of it so faked amusement and laughed awkwardly at what he was saying. The CF then said that he was going to write the same on my book in addition to my request and when I looked down, he was writing 'Whore' in stencil style, then filled it in in red pen, right in the centre of the page. I was stunned and felt really awful about it but tried to brave it out (fecking hell, are we socialised to be compliant and not make a fuss or what??!!), laugh it off and appear to be cool with it, despite not feeling like laughing at all.

On the way home my partner and I both felt flat and extremely let down by Celeb. My view is that he took complete advantage of his position and wrote an unpleasant and misogynistic word, purely because he could. Celeb is extremely clever and very obviously witty with much of his humour being taken from observations in life. I have no idea why he would have sharpened his claws on me. I am averagely ancient, do not look, talk or behave like an arse and am also not very confident (apart from when wearing my activist kit!), so I know that I couldn't possibly have come over as negative or unpleasant in any way towards him. Why would I, as I had enjoyed seeing the 'Evening with' and was in a great mood as was everyone else.

My partner is really disappointed in Celeb too and he thought that it was an offensive and completely unnecessary thing to do. Our evening was spoiled and I feel humiliated and thoroughly shat upon. Celeb is also quite lucky as if he had done this to many women I know, they would have chewed him up and spat out the remains. It's possible that I was being unreasonable though, as other people may not have been offended.

I now have a book that has been personalised with a word that I find very offensive, that is also really misogynistic and an insult to me and to women generally. A mooch around the internet found that Celeb claims he isn't a misogynist, he is a misanthrope as he hates everyone equally. My partner and I would dispute that!

I know that it would be better if I was annoyed but instead, I felt flat and more than a bit gutted, tbh. There's an old phrase about never meeting your heroes. I should have taken note!

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LipstickHandbagCoffee · 06/08/2018 23:34

and hand his arse to him on a plate...and the award for most bellicose comment,goes to

garethsouthgatesmrs · 06/08/2018 23:35

Whoever it is, he sounds horrible and I would be naming and shaming. Maybe don't have a misanthrope as your hero.

Agree it is a misogynistic word and he wrote something nice in your DH's book

lalalonglegs · 06/08/2018 23:35

Hmm, my immediate thought was David Sedaris too.

RomanyRoots · 06/08/2018 23:35

Guess the cunt!
I love this game, but can't think of anyone, but i bet there's plenty.
OP whether you name on here or go to the press with your evidence, please do something. Thanks

MadMags · 06/08/2018 23:36

I can't make head nor tail of this, really. I'm tired.

What I mean is, I don't get the two words/environmental campaign thing.

But anyway, if a "celeb" had written WHORE on anything and handed it to me, you bet your arse I'd be plastering it everywhere. Why should he get away with being a misogynistic twat? Actually why?

If it is Stephen Fry YABU to expect anything else. He's a vile creep.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 06/08/2018 23:36

It’s like a perverse parlour game,name the odious celeb who wrote whore

dinosaurkisses · 06/08/2018 23:36

According to Wiki, David Sedaris released Calypso in May this year...

sazza76 · 06/08/2018 23:37

Google shows that there is a comedian who writes a lot if insulting things and drawings in peoples books at the end of shows. If its the same person there’s an article on it :-(

GinaCarbonara · 06/08/2018 23:37

How upsetting, I would have been absolutely gutted as well.

CoteDAzur · 06/08/2018 23:37

Pic or it didn't happen.

Butcowsdontgetmarried · 06/08/2018 23:38

OP don’t feel you have to do anything if you don’t want to.
If you feel you could get over it, why not email your op to his management and give him a chance to apologise/make amends?

Although me personally, I’d tweet the shit out of it and consider myself a failure if I didn’t get a “sad face” story in the Daily Fail

HedgehogPoo · 06/08/2018 23:38

Hope that this works! It's the word only, nothing else, but it shows that there's absolutely no mistake in reading it.

Never Meet Your Heroes - AIBU or was this rude? **Title edited by MNHQ**
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RebootYourEngine · 06/08/2018 23:38

That is not on. Who writes whore on a fans book.

Strawberrybelly · 06/08/2018 23:38

What were the two words you wanted him to write?

Justgettothepoint · 06/08/2018 23:39

That's sad to be let down by someone you admired OP. Celebs shouldn't be allowed to get away with this behaviour. It's the publics support that pays them. I'd out them and I'm not generally the sort of person to it but at least it would stop him from doing it a third time.

Wellmeaning · 06/08/2018 23:39

Oh dear. That’s awful OP.

I am so disappointed in him. I thought it sounded typical of Stephen Fry and thought “oh it can’t be the lovely David Sedaris because he’s so close to his sister ..” somehow that made him not a misogynist in my head.

What a pathetic human being .. to make you feel like that; and as pp’s have said, after you’d bought tickets to see him, bought his book, etc

I’m sorry you’re evening was spoiled.

lalalonglegs · 06/08/2018 23:39

If it is David Sedaris, this thread could be the basis of his next R4 monologue...

NoCanoe · 06/08/2018 23:39

Ffs. Thats worse than id even imagined.

MozzieMagnet · 06/08/2018 23:39

I know, that book is going to be my birthday present. He is touring the States though. I have read/listened to all his stuff though and misogyny would never spring to mind Confused

HedgehogPoo · 06/08/2018 23:40

aaarghh! it seemed to work on the Preview. Try again!

Never Meet Your Heroes - AIBU or was this rude? **Title edited by MNHQ**
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garethsouthgatesmrs · 06/08/2018 23:40

that is so creepy, he's coloured it in red

You have to name and shame somewhere. Thats your property he has vandalised. disgusting.

NoCanoe · 06/08/2018 23:40

No mistaking the word or the intent.

Mammyloveswine · 06/08/2018 23:41

OP I think you need to tell is if it was just a random book you asked him to sign and also what you asked for...

I don't mean to sound awful but i find your husbands dedication a bit weird too...

MadMags · 06/08/2018 23:41

I can see it. Despicable.

I honestly don't know why you wouldn't be plastering this everywhere, I really don't.

What were the words you wanted him to write?

Butcowsdontgetmarried · 06/08/2018 23:41

He can’t even colour inside the lines
The wired pre-amble about the earlier woman who asked for the same words
He sounds a twonk