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AIBU to not want to have homeless people with complex needs placed in the house next door to me?

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StressedandNameChanged · 05/08/2018 23:57

I live in a 2 storey terraced house in a small residential street in an area with lots of rows of similar small terraced houses. It’s not the smartest area of town and hasn’t had the best reputation, but it was affordable when we moved here over 15 years ago, and we have been happy here. I live with my dh, and my youngest ds 12.

The end terrace house next door to me was bought by a private investment company earlier this year, and I recently found out that this was part of an organisation which combines property investment with supported housing. Following a lot of enquiries on my part, I found out that they planned to use the house as a house share for 5 vulnerable adults with complex needs and a history of homelessness. Complex needs means at least 2 of the following issues: substance misuse; history of offending; history of anti-social behaviour; mental health problems.

Communications with the organisations who will be managing the property have been problematic. They were initially very evasive, but once I had more info, the housing manager agreed to come to a residents’ association meeting to discuss the plans for the property. It didn’t go very well. On the agenda at the same meeting were problems with an existing supported housing project in the neighbourhood, where due to staffing issues and some challenging clients, the police are being called out every night.

The housing manager later offered to come and speak with dh and myself but as we were away at the time, we said we would arrange a date when we got back. Unfortunately, while we were away a neighbour put up some very offensive signs around the property, including some in my garden and went to the local paper. (This may be the same neighbour who has also been cutting cctv cables at the property). Since we got back we have tried to get in touch but no response. There is a meeting set up with the neighbourhood policing team and others, but the housing managers are not available to attend that either.

Meanwhile I have heard from elsewhere that at least one tenant would be moving into the property in 2 weeks’ time. I think the company running the property are trying to get it as a done deal with people living there before talking to anyone.

I know people can change and this is hopefully a good opportunity for the people who will be placed next door, but I also know there is no magic wand for people who have struggled with multiple serious issues for several years, and there will be relapses. I am worried about the location and the suitability of the property for this use. Most people who have suffered high levels of trauma and are trying to move away from a chaotic lifestyle want their own place where they can control their surroundings, not a shared house. I am worried about 5 vulnerable adults being housed together in a small Victorian terraced house with poor sound proofing. Many houses around here are used for student housing and they live 5 to a house, but they are groups of friends who choose to live together, and they can usually escape to their parents’ homes for a break. I know from experience the level of disruption just one tenant in a shared house can cause if they kick off, mainly to the other tenants but also to the neighbours. I am worried about some of the visitors they will attract. I am worried about the possible high turnover of tenants. I am worried about the potential disturbance for ourselves and other neighbours. I know what the streets around other hostels are like, and I will not feel safe if my street becomes like that. I am worried about the failure of the people managing the property to communicate, which doesn’t bode well if problems do occur. I am stressed out and losing sleep worrying about it.

Yes, I know I am being the very definition of a NIMBY, but I am amazed that this sort of facility can be placed in a residential street without any consultation with neighbours, the local authorities, the police or any existing services in the area.

OP posts:
busybarbara · 26/09/2018 10:28

Funny how so many MNers get upset a theoretical trans woman might run their daughter's Brownies group, yet criticise someone who's worried druggies and sex offenders might move in next door and be around every single day!

Libertarian · 26/09/2018 11:09

@busybarbara YY. And to add insult to injury it's our taxes supporting these parasites.

InertPotato · 26/09/2018 12:46

Britain is ridiculously soft on crime. There is effectively no penalty for property or ASBO-related offenses in this country - they already have criminal records so there's no fear of fucking up their employment prospects (hollow laugh), they have no money so they can't be fined. They wind up 'vulnerable' and deserving of a home next to me or the OP!

Libertarian · 26/09/2018 12:55

@InertPotato - I personally think benefits should be linked to criminal records. The longer your record is the less you get.

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 26/09/2018 13:43

busybarbara very very true!

littlemissmanchet · 26/09/2018 14:58

I live in sober supported housing. I can honestly say that we don't 'impact the local community' negatively - everyone (there are 7 of us) is quiet and considerate and trying to rebuild their lives in a twelve step program. The only time we've had a police car up the street was next door's well-to-do 'normal' family exploding into domestic violence with the husband almost killing his wife.

The people looking down their noses on this thread as though all social housing is the same and stuffed to the rafters with parasitic drug dealers, sex offenders and all-night parties need to wind their ignorant necks in.

littlemissmanchet · 26/09/2018 15:32

And, FWIW, I've been at the other end of this too, next to a unlisted YMCA which WAS full of drugs, prostitution and violence. That situation required police/council intervention (such as it now is), it sounds like yours does too OP having caught up on the arsonist, etc, - still shocked at the tarring with broad brushstrokes on this thread though. Some folks here need to pray they never fall through the cracks onto hard times.

HelenaDove · 26/09/2018 16:02

"The people looking down their noses on this thread as though all social housing is the same and stuffed to the rafters with parasitic drug dealers, sex offenders and all-night parties need to wind their ignorant necks in"

Yep Ive never even been drunk not once (how many middle class people can say that) and i live in social housing. The weed smoker downstairs moaned to my DH about me going for a piss in the night and said to him that he was "going to come up here" if it happened again. He accused me of moving furniture around I was doing no such thing at 3am. So there was no need for threats. I guess the head and ears can be sensitive when on a comedown.

And no one gives a shit because by very dint of being a social housing tenant i must be the same as him right?

FUCKING SNOBBERY Angry

DriftingLeaves · 27/09/2018 08:32

No one said that, Helena, get a grip.

HelenaDove · 28/09/2018 16:26

Petition to bring housing associations under the FOI Act.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/221577

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