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Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie say its hard work being a modern princess.AIBU to say give it up and do something easier

284 replies

longwayoff · 05/08/2018 06:44

Like brain surgery or astrophysics. You know the kind of thing that's easier than the absolute slog of princessing.

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TooManyPaws · 06/08/2018 09:15

They'll have got their views from their parents. Apparently there was a question about cutting out their security and Andrew had a tantrum because they are PRINCESSES.

After the early mistakes, the Wessexes seem to have got their heads down and got on with working as royals while keeping their family out of the limelight. Louise is taking a leaf out of Zara's book and is doing well in carriage driving, her grandfather's sport. I doubt anyone could pick her brother out of a crowd.

Incidentally, I was working at a place where Anne came to dedicate a memorial. She was late from her previous engagement; we were told that this was normal as she would not leave without speaking to everyone. We saw that as, once she arrived, she spoke to every single member of the bereaved families, was kind and comforting in her no-nonsense way, and left us late too because of it. Every family member felt listened to and important.

RoseWhiteTips · 06/08/2018 09:35

The wedding won’t be “more exciting” because Eugenie us the real deal; it won’t be exciting at all. However, at least Eugenie will know the score.

RoseWhiteTips · 06/08/2018 09:36

...is the

ilovesooty · 06/08/2018 10:17

Despite their parents I think they have had some disadvantages to over come. I remember Eugenie having some kind of operation to put a steel rod in her spine when she was younger and Beatrice achieved decent qualifications despite being diagnosed with dyslexia.

TooManyPaws · 06/08/2018 10:32

Yes, she recently released her x-rays publicly to highlight the campaign to raise funds for the National Orthopaedic Hospital - she had two rods inserted for scoliosis as a young teenager.

Tinycitrus · 06/08/2018 10:38

Everyone has difficulties in their lives. The difference is that the B&E have the money and connections to buy the best.

No NHS waiting lists for them. No struggle with dyslexia in a class of 30+ Alongside many other children with SEN and no adequate support.

It’s not their fault. It’s judt the way tho gas are - but they should not expect the public to love them.

Princess Anne and her family seem to have it right.

UrsulaPandress · 06/08/2018 14:14

When Zara was competing in very grass roots horse trials and eventing as everyone has to do to move up through the ranks, her mum could be found in the collecting ring putting up jumps and making encouraging noises.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 06/08/2018 15:37

I am not a huge fan of royalty as a concept, but I find myself liking Princess Anne and her children. They have enjoyed privileged lives but don't seem to have taken the piss and rubbed it in everyone's faces, like Prince Andrew does.

Laiste · 06/08/2018 16:01

If the average person struggles a bit to remember the name of a royal or the details about their children then it's fair to say that particular branch of the royals is doing a decent job of staying low key.

When certain names and faces are familiar (because they're doing interviews and photo shoots ...) it's fair to say they're really NOT wishing so hard that they were under the radar.

I couldn't name all the queen's grandchildren, but B and E - i know who they are. And let's be honest that's the way they want it.

THEsonofaBITCH · 06/08/2018 16:08

Love Prince Philip - what an absolute gentleman and quick wit!

RoseWhiteTips · 06/08/2018 16:11

Lol. A quick wit is one way of looking at it!

THEsonofaBITCH · 06/08/2018 16:15

I met him and he was very fun, very quick and very warm - liked him a lot over the others I've met and interacted with.

LaurieMarlow · 06/08/2018 16:26

he was very fun, very quick and very warm

And an ignorant racist, but let's gloss over that why don't we Hmm

CheeseTheDay · 06/08/2018 16:28

I think Princess Anne got it spot on with Peter and Zara, by refusing titles for them, and in giving them some sense of normality. Now of course, life is never going to be normal, when your grandmother is the Queen, and your mum is a Princess, but they're the closest to it.

I've had the pleasure of crossing paths with Zara, on several occasions, as part of our shared love of equine pursuits. The first time our paths crossed, I did wonder if she'd be full of airs and graces, because regardless of her lack of title or standing, she's the Queen's granddaughter. I soon discovered she was anything but, and was in fact, really down to earth, and an absolute hoot!

If we got to vote for a head of state, she'd get my vote, although she probably wouldn't want it! Wink

THEsonofaBITCH · 06/08/2018 16:28

I personally haven't seen him be racist and he definitely isn't ignorant. Some reports of racism (I don't know all cases) were taken out of context so I don't put faith in those ones. Again, personal experience ignorant or racist doesn't describe the man I personally met and had conversations with.

petrolpump28 · 06/08/2018 16:31

didn't he something about slitty eyes?

Cantusethatname · 06/08/2018 16:31

I don't really see how there's an acceptable context for calling Chinese people "slitty eyed".
But maybe there is.

DesignStatement · 06/08/2018 17:26

PrincePhilip ~ is no gentleman and not witty. He is racist, insulting and viscous. If he was a paid employee representing his company or a teacher or police officer he would have lost his job many years ago. Sadly, he lives off our hard earned money and is given free rein to do and say as he wants .....just as his over privileged sons do.
Utterly pathetic we tolerate this as a country.

LaurieMarlow · 06/08/2018 17:50

I'm not sure how you take a racist remark 'out of context'. A racist remark is a racist remark.

And there are many attributed to Prince Philip. Kinda difficult to explain them away. The man is an ignorant idiot and everyone knows it. Standing up for him makes you one too.

DesignStatement · 06/08/2018 18:09

Just a few on Philip's sensitive remarks while representing our country!

Can you tell the difference between them?" — The Duke's question after President Barack Obama said he met with the leaders of the UK, China and Russia.

"Well, you'll never fly in it, you're too fat to be an astronaut" — to a 13-year-old whilst visiting a space shuttle.

"You look like you’re ready for bed!" — to the President of Nigeria, dressed in traditional robes.

"How many people have you knocked over this morning on that thing?" — when meeting a 60-year-old disabled man on a motor scooter

"Is it a strip club?...[sees her surprise]... probably too cold for that anyway" — asking a female Sea Cadet what she did for a living, and being told that she worked in a nightclub (as a barmaid).

"Do you still throw spears at each other?" — to Australian Aborigines during a visit to Australia with the Queen

"It looks like the kind of thing my daughter would bring back from her school art lessons" - at an exhibition of "primitive" Ethiopian art

DesignStatement · 06/08/2018 18:16

The guy is an embarrassment - and we pay him!

  1. "Ghastly." Prince Philip's opinion of Beijing, during a 1986 tour of China.
  1. "Ghastly." Prince Philip's opinion of Stoke-on-Trent, as offered to the city's Labour MP Joan Walley at Buckingham Palace in 1997.
  1. "Deaf? If you're near there, no wonder you are deaf." Said to a group of deaf children standing near a Caribbean steel drum band in 2000.
  1. "If you stay here much longer, you will go home with slitty eyes." To 21-year-old British student Simon Kerby during a visit to China in 1986.
  1. "You managed not to get eaten then?" To a British student who had trekked in Papua New Guinea, during an official visit in 1998.
  1. "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the test?" Asked of a Scottish driving instructor in 1995.
  1. "Damn fool question!" To BBC journalist Caroline Wyatt at a banquet at the Elysée Palace after she asked Queen Elizabeth if she was enjoying her stay in Paris in 2006.
  1. "It looks as though it was put in by an Indian." The Prince's verdict of a fuse box during a tour of a Scottish factory in August 1999. He later clarified his comment: "I meant to say cowboys. "I just got my cowboys and Indians mixed up."
  1. "People usually say that after a fire it is water damage that is the worst. We are still drying out Windsor Castle." To survivors of the Lockerbie bombings in 1993.

  2. "We don't come here for our health. We can think of other ways of enjoying ourselves." During a trip to Canada in 1976.

  3. "A few years ago, everybody was saying we must have more leisure, everyone's working too much. Now that everybody's got more leisure time they are complaining they are unemployed. People don't seem to make up their minds what they want." A man of the people shares insight into the recession that gripped Britain in 1981.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 06/08/2018 18:22

It always makes me Hmm when I read (admittedly in the Mail ) that Prince Phillip won't be in the same room as Fergie because of her embarrassing behaviour!

DesignStatement · 06/08/2018 18:27

Clearly thinks very little of women

"I don't think a prostitute is more moral than a wife, but they are doing the same thing." Dismissing claims that those who sell slaughtered meat have greater moral authority than those who participate in blood sports, in 1988.
"Ah, so this is feminist corner then." Joining a group of female Labour MPs, who were wearing name badges reading "Ms", at a Buckingham Palace drinks party in 2000.

longwayoff · 06/08/2018 18:31

LOL iwanna, first laugh of thethe day thanks

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WickedLazy · 06/08/2018 19:15

"You managed not to get eaten then?"

^I laughed out loud at that Blush