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AIBU to wish Meghan Markles family would shut up?

260 replies

longwayoff · 29/07/2018 12:03

Really. Give up and shut up please.

OP posts:
user1457017537 · 01/08/2018 20:39

So I’m talking bollocks. Time will tell.

user1457017537 · 01/08/2018 20:41

What charity work do they do? Turn up, shake hands, cut a ribbon. Do me a favour! Check out the salary of the CEO and his wife for Help for Heroes.

SamanthaBrique · 01/08/2018 20:51

Well Harry helped set up the Invictus Games and he and William and Kate have helped raise the profile of young peoples mental health with Heads Together.

And going further back, Diana actually did a hell of a lot for HIV/AIDS awareness. I actually know people who worked with her at the time and, in addition to the high profile work she did, she'd also visit people dying of AIDS when the cameras were not around.

So yes, people at grassroots levels probably did more but there was enormous stigma around HIV in the 80s and someone high profile like Diana, kissing and hugging people living with HIV, did a lot to show the public that there was no need to treat them like lepers.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 01/08/2018 20:51

Well user, for some people its the only answer. And the fact that youve experinced it from the other side says it all, "i did nothing wrong guv" Thisnt about me though i was using my experince as an example. Going non contact is never taken lightly. You obviously feel hard done by some one thats gobe non contact with you, maybe you handed them their ass one too many times i think your attitude is coming out here.

Some situations the only way to resolve it is go none contact

Lindalee3 · 01/08/2018 20:52

YANBU OP.

They get on my tits!

The dad is awful, but now I believe her HALF-SISTER is going on celebrity big brother FFS!

LuluJakey1 · 01/08/2018 20:57

I am no fan of the Markles or of MM or of Prince Harry who is just dim.

But, Kensington Palace knew what this family were like, they knew the DM, Huffington Post, The Mirror, The Express and The Sun were buying up stories for at least a year before the wedding. There is much more to come - from ex partners, ex friends and her ex husband. They are sitting on it and drip feeding it. DH has a university friend who is a staff journalist on a left of centre broadsheet. He says it is known amongst the papers that one of the tabloids has explicit photos and video as well as paid for, substantiated stories.

What astonishes me is that KP- who have also been buying up stuff for about 18months- to remove it from public access- really seem to have thought they would manage the Markles and any other worms in the woodwork- and thete are apparently plenty. Papers will pay them a regular retainer until they use the story. So ex lover is signed up, paid £10,000 a week and then a lump sum for the story when it is used. They will sit happily on £10,000 a week for months or years.

Why should the Markles shut up? They are free to speak to who they choose. For whatever reason, they feel very badly treated and are entitled to say what they like. They are American citizens, just above really poor and in need of money. Samantha Markle has progressive multiple sclerosis which affects her quite severely now- her speech, she is wheelchair bound. She will have increasinly large care and medical bills to pay. The father seems very naive and simple and I think there is little hope of him keeping quiet. He will no doubt reveal the ins and outs of his marriage break up to Doria next - has started making remarks about her. The brother is a loose cannon.

If they lived here the papers would be full of them, they'd have a reality tv series by now. Imagine Michael Middleton behaving like this and the publicity that would get.

KP have no control of anything the American press do or American citizens. Unfortunately MM's past and her background will run and run for a long time yet and KP seem to be increasingly twitchy about it.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 01/08/2018 20:59

Also user, re humanitarian, you might object, but that's not what you said and I might disagree.

You said it didn't say much for humanitarians that they can't be nice to their own family.

What does being a humanitarian have to do with being nice to your family, especially when your family are foul abusive money grabbing dead beat fathers who fake paperatzi shots and fake heart surgery.

Like I said it's likely Meghan wants to be involved in charities to spite her upbringing

user1457017537 · 01/08/2018 21:08

Naught You are projecting and seem unpleasant. No one has gone no contact with me.

LuluJakey1 I have heard the same. I am not surprised that newspapers have already done deals. SM needs money for care. Harry is well loved by all. Totally agree that the Royals have no control over American citizens.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 01/08/2018 21:28

Haha your the one that's unpleasant user, ypu are the one who despite having had non contact explained to you still repeatedly blame Meghan.

You say that you've experienced it from the flip side of the coin, meaning the one that was gone non contact with,

You are being nasty about their charity work, actually contradicting yourself.

Your also the one that said Meghan should/is having her ass handed to her.nice you want the victim f a shitty background to have her ass handed to her . While playing down what her family are doing

Bacere · 01/08/2018 22:06

The media must be loving it. Why do people buy these papers etc when they report such tales? Why do they pay these people? Everyone loves to hear of the misery of others , just don't buy /read , but that's not going to happen.

Poor newly weds and innocent family members. Can't help wondering why the royals allowed this. Okay, they can't gag people but they can advise and forwarn it's not as if they have no experience and employees paid to protect them. definitely letting the newly weds down.

user1457017537 · 01/08/2018 22:42

Naught I said I have had experience of difficult family members. Not that I have gone no contact or had anyone go no contact with me. For what it is worth I don’t think holding on to bitterness does anyone’s long term mental health any good. I also think life is too short. I have repeatedly explained and you have chosen to project your personal circumstances onto my every utterance. MMs whole family could do with support, financial or otherwise. MMs uncle who arranged for her to intern at the Embassy in Argentina was not invited to the wedding, nor was the Uncle who is a Pastor. However, work colleagues were, ie the cast of Suits!

MrsAidanTurner · 01/08/2018 22:58

I had a vague interest in them prior to the the wedding but now I groan and turn over. Mr Markel may be feathering his retirement nest it's bloody obvious she can't talk to him now as its all going to be splashed the next day.
He was invited to the wedding he wasn't cut off. For whatever reason he didn't go. I think he saw the wedding, the scale of it and was knocked for 6. Now he wants a piece of it. There is no way on this earth he would be taking to the press if he genuinely wanted his daughter to talk to him!!

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 01/08/2018 23:03

Going non contact is often the only way to let go of that bitterness, user. Not having that negativity, abuse, anger in your life at all.

You dont hold on to that bitterness, because your not surrounded by it.

Like i said it takes a lot to actally go thats fucking it no more, its gone i love you, but i can not have your anger, manipluation and bitterness around me.

Going NC is the very oppisite of holding on to bitterness, youve clearly not experienced family difficulties to that extent. Like i said i love my dad, but put myself back in.that situation that would make me bitter and angry. I no longer care about the pain hes caused me, i dont see him he can not cause me any anger bitterness or pain any more any more. I have friends and family who picked up the pieces, my mum had to do it twice for my brother and i.
Doesnt stop me loving him or missing him, but im not bitter.

Meghan probally isnt bitter or angry, because shes got a really really nice life with a husband who loves her regardless of who the fuck he is, or what her father has said and done.

Nc is freedom from bitterness

The fact you dont understand this shows you actally have no idea how disfuctuonal and toxic some families are

Im glad you have a lovely family where well difficulties arent that bad.

MissEliza · 01/08/2018 23:09

The whole thing is just weird. Why would MM not have introduced her dad to her future husband months ago? Why did she only have one member of her family at her wedding?
Her father's remarks are just cringeworthy 'the royal family can't shut me up', 'Diana would be ashamed' and 'if the Queen can meet Trump she can meet me'. What an American idiot!

SunflowerJo08 · 01/08/2018 23:10

I think the media is doing the Royal Family a huge disservice by providing an outlet and money to these desperately grasping people. I'm not remotely interested in anything her family says and going by this, neither are most of the UK public. If our press stopped buying the stories they would soon shut up.

I find it really distasteful that the UK media is doing this to our own Royal Family, there should be a lot more respect there. Harry has made his choice; we don't need to drag our own country down to the gutter by printing their vicious outpourings.

LanguidLobster · 01/08/2018 23:16

@LuluJakey1 I've heard those rumours about MM and find them hard to believe. It seems unlikely the wedding would have gone ahead if they were true. Actually I don't really care if she did yachting or steamy movies.

The whole thing is a bit of a car crash at the moment, who knows what will happen next

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 01/08/2018 23:17

Im not fickimh projrcting anything im trying to use my example to explain

She hasnt visited her dad you say? No she hasnt shes no contact, like me and millions of other people.

But but but their humanintarians you say... you still havent answered why this has bollocks all to do with her being non contact.

Well hes ill and had surgery and hes poor and alone ..

Er well the surgery is questionabl, but i like thousends of others who are non contact wpuldnt even know if our NC relatives had even had surgery let alone go and visit. Because that means entering in to situations that are not good for a mental health and safety

But she sent him such a loving blog post ...yes i like the millions and tjosends of others love our rekatives that are NC, Their our mums/dads/sisters/brothers. Before going NC, weve played along with "celebrations" like fathers day mothers day birthdays and christmases, to come away feelimg very distressed, we've posted tje brilliant time with now NC relative.

Im not bitter pr projecting anything, im just understanding, unlike you, is going NC is never taken lightly, is done to let go of the bitterness not keep it.

If i was projecting i would be saying my dad did what mr markle did, nope nope, much more minor than fakimg paperarati shots and makong up heart surgery. Meghan would probably be one of the peopke going ah your dads not too bad. To my situation.

Not projecting anything

MissEliza · 01/08/2018 23:19

It is distasteful and I actually think the media clearly don't understand the British public. Most of us have dysfunctional families and we don't take pleasure in seeing someone embarrassed by having family disputes aired in public.

pallisers · 01/08/2018 23:29

The article says he won $750,000 on the lottery and used it to put her through boarding school and then pay her $30,000 per year university fees

Boarding school back then was probably around 20k for 4 years. I reckon the max he spent on her was 200k. And it was his choice as a parent. That is what parents do. I would NEVER judge how someone treats a parent or sibling unless I knew every detail of the circumstances. What looks one way to the outside can be very different on the inside.

Harry Wales knew exactly what her background and family were like before he married her. His own aren't much better really. I doubt anyone in Kensington Palace is much surprised. Eventually the stories will die down to a low level hum in the daily mail etc. There will be worse stories about the royal family in due course.

SmileSweetly · 01/08/2018 23:44

She can't pick up the phone to talk to him or visit him now, can she? Any move she makes will be splashed all over the tabloids the next day.

LuluJakey1 · 01/08/2018 23:45

sunflower why should the Markles not speak up and say how they feel? If as people are saying she owes them nothing, then the same applies to them. They owe her nothing. They are clearly angry about the way she has treated them. They have free speech.
Why should the press not think this is a legitimate public interest story? She has manipulated an image of herself for the last 8 years that they have been gathering evidence is not as true as she would like it to be. Being a member of the Royal Family is a privilege- there are expectations, they are supposed to be role models. The press are not beholden to the Royal Family. The price the RF pay for their huge wealth, titles, national and international status, the jewels and the palaces, is public scrutiny of their private lives.
Harry should have buggered off and married her quietly and given up his titles and public life if he was not prepared to accept that. He can't have it all ways.

MissEliza · 02/08/2018 00:02

Why is it a public interest story? We all have family quarrels. It doesn't make us bad people.

Movablefeast · 02/08/2018 00:16

pallisers my understanding is that MM attended a local private Catholic girls school not boarding school, of course I may be mistaken. I seem to remember she mentioned the school quite a lot but can’t remember the name... I have seen pictures of her wearing the classic Catholic school uniform here of a plaid skirt and plain sweatshirt. My guess is he paid for her to get the best education local to where she was living at the time. There is just absolutely no way it would cost that kind of money for high school and college. He would have the vast majority of money still in play if it was well invested. She is 36 so it would’ve been more than 20 years ago when he starting paying for schools so we can’t use current prices as a gauge as private schools have increased in cost massively, especially in the last decade.

SunflowerJo08 · 02/08/2018 09:04

@LuluJakey1 I completely agree with you and I for one am not overkeen on MM, outside of what her family are saying. Perhaps, looking at it another way, KP didn't bother to try and hush the Markles or involve them, as they thought our press would protect the Royal Family. As it is though I do think that printed the stories is disrespectful to the Royal family. Above all though, my personal 2p is that she set out from the start to get him and he's a bit dim altogether!

DSHathawayGivesMeFannyGallops · 02/08/2018 09:32

I'm no Meghan fan (she's doing a good job and seems v nice and I love them as a happy couple, but I'm just not keen on her personally) but I feel exceptionally sorry for her here and I'm not surprised she's not talking to them. They should give it up & go away.

That said however, you've got to have sharpish little elbows to get to where she's got so there might be a grain of truth buried in some of their accusations. I also recall her slighting a cousin in the diplomatic service, a man who helped her get her first job and was discreet and harmless, over wedding invites. That rather spoke volumes, I thought, although obviously I don't know the ins & outs so happy to be corrected. Sweetly twee though that service was, the guestlist was a bit big-name-bullshit-bingo, no?

Horrified at some of those "fake wedding/she's delusional" stories though. I'm no fan but leave the poor girl alone, that's awful.