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To feel terrified after reading the prepping for Brexit threads?

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LittleNapRefuser · 28/07/2018 20:26

I have genuinely cried real tears of fear after reading the threads on prepping for Brexit today. I have a toddler and right now I am terrified of what is to come and their future after all this.

I don't really have anyone to talk to about this in 'real life' because most people I know aren't reading the news or don't seem to care.

Should I be terrified? Should I be scared for my baby's future? Can anyone reassure me or offer me an alternative perspective on all this. I don't want to to put my head in the sand but I feel really afraid.

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WhatdoImean · 29/07/2018 08:36

The really worrying thing about this is the lack of certainty.

Here we are, two years on, and people are STILL arguing about "what brexit means" and what was voted for (to be honest and up front - my personal view is that it was a the single biggest collective economic suicide attempt in history).

The truth is, there ARE likely to be supply chain interruptions. The government have admitted as much, and pretty much any business with an EU supply chain is laying in additional stock to cover the likely issues.

As regards the "panic and fear" - some time ago, the rabid leavers were saying "We need to prep for a no-deal scenario; let the EU KNOW that we are prepared to walk away!". Now of course, that we ARE prepping for a no-deal scenario, it is "You are just doing Project Fear 2.0!!!" etc.

My personal view - hope for the best and plan for the worst. Make sure you have enough basic essentials, but there is reasonableness to all things.

Final comment:- Remember, this is all self-inflicted. WE (and I mean collectively, as a nation) voted for this. Personally, I would vote for pretty much any party that offered either to call it off or to have a second referendum....

StealthPolarBear · 29/07/2018 08:36

Parsnips how will it turn out OK for people who have their essential medicines delayed?

StealthPolarBear · 29/07/2018 08:37

Ooh has Norway just left the EU with no deal? Think I missed that.

ParsnipsAreTheDevil · 29/07/2018 08:38

inclined to agree with you but people making sharp comments to those with genuine worry is childish and pointless.

I agree! That was kind of what my first post was about!

Parsnips how will it turn out OK for people who have their essential medicines delayed?

I have absolutely no idea, I'm sorry. I'm with you.

I do think no deal is fairly unlikely however.

PostNotInHaste · 29/07/2018 08:39

But the Government is saying there will be a need to stockpile soclearky it concerns people. Norway are not facing disruption to their food supply chain so there is no comparison obviously.

If we were heading for a Norway style agreement as mentioned by prominent Leavers pre Referendum then we would not be in the situation where the Government is talking about stockpiling. So really what is happening in Norway is totally irrelevant to our situation here in any shape or form.

StealthPolarBear · 29/07/2018 08:39

Do you think? I hope so.

ParsnipsAreTheDevil · 29/07/2018 08:40

I do think, but I don't know. None of us knows.

FrancinePefko42 · 29/07/2018 08:40

The main manufacturers of insulin globally are
Sanofi
Lilly
Novo Nordisk
C P Pharmaceuticals
Aventis Pharma

Guess what? All of these companies supply countries which are OUTSIDE OF THE EU!!!!!!

Who'd a thunk it???

bellinisurge · 29/07/2018 08:43

@FrancinePefko42 - and there will be no disruption to the supply chain. Even short term. Hmm
That's the problem - not, people outside the EU sell stuff too. That's not the concern here.

StealthPolarBear · 29/07/2018 08:43

Thank you that will be reassuring for the other poster who is really very worried.

FrancinePefko42 · 29/07/2018 08:44

WhatdoImean
The really worrying thing about this is the lack of certainty

Two questions:

  1. In what areas of your life do you have total "certainty"?
  2. How do you cope with all the others?
StealthPolarBear · 29/07/2018 08:46

Most people live with a certain amount of certainty. Some can tolerate less, others, including the sock and vulnerable often need more. No one ever has 100% certainty but that doest mean anything less than 100 is th same as zero.

bellinisurge · 29/07/2018 08:47

There is a difference between the kind of unpredictable setbacks that individuals can and will experience and the whole country having a hiccup in distribution.
Can you not see that?

glueandstick · 29/07/2018 08:48

I’ll be buying extra coffee. I don’t think it’ll be as bad as some think but I refuse to face this shit storm without extra caffeine.

bellinisurge · 29/07/2018 08:48

@glueandstick - very sensible!

PostNotInHaste · 29/07/2018 08:49

Francine Why is that relevant to a situation where we are potentially facing short term disruption to everyday life , caused by a badly handled vote which has subsequently been badly handled by politicians? This lack of uncertainty is a national disgrace as it is unnecessary and that is the point.

InigoMontoyaWillcox · 29/07/2018 08:51

@drearydeardre What we need is a short sharp shock

Yes, I'm sure the entirely avoidable death of my son would be a short, sharp shock! Fuck right off! Angry

WhatdoImean · 29/07/2018 08:53

*@FrancinePefko42
Two questions:

  1. In what areas of your life do you have total "certainty"?
  2. How do you cope with all the others?*

Answers

  1. Death and taxes (well.. you asked)
  2. By taking a reasoned approach. When you have the central government, a number of large employers, key health officials, foreign governments (France (Calais) have taken over 900 new port inspectors on, specifically to allow for the impacts of trying to trade under WTO rules) ALL saying that there will be supply chain issues, and that is wise to carry extra inventory ("stockpile"), I think it is reasonable to do the same. It is a plan for the worst scenario, but hope for the best.

Incidentally, the cascade effect of a two-min delay per lorry on imports is incredibly major... Have a look at the relevant figures.

Again - it seems like the EU is prepping for a no-deal better than we are - Again in Calais, huge amounts of land has been purchased for a lorry park. Not really seeing anything similar (as yet) in the UK, other than "Operation Stack"

FrancinePefko42 · 29/07/2018 08:53

bellinisurge
FrancinePefko42 - and there will be no disruption to the supply chain. Even short term

The NHS and the Department of Health have already given that categorical reassurance to that tosser journalists from The Independent who created the fanny flap doodle about insulin.

My worry now is how much time, energy and effort the already busy NHS is going to have to devote to countless others in fits of hysteria asking the same bloody question for the next few months.

People deliberately arousing fear and panic for political motives in vulnerable people in the last desperate hope we all say "Please make Junker our President..., pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaassse!!!"

WhatIfYouFly · 29/07/2018 08:55

Oh for goodness sake, how much more ridiculous can it get on this thread.

bellinisurge · 29/07/2018 08:56

To people just joining this thread, there are things most of you can realistically do to put food etc aside for a short term. However that is not the case for everyone and this thread includes discussion of that.

bellinisurge · 29/07/2018 08:56

@FrancinePefko42 I have no political motive.

FrancinePefko42 · 29/07/2018 08:57

InigoMontoyaWillcox
Yes, I'm sure the entirely avoidable death of my son would be a short, sharp shock! Fuck right off!

Can I check please, what's causing you to think your son might die?

Ifailed · 29/07/2018 08:57

Not really seeing anything similar (as yet) in the UK, other than "Operation Stack"

current plan is to close the M26 and use it as a lorry park.

bellinisurge · 29/07/2018 08:58

@FrancinePefko42 - you are a goady fecker this morning, aren't you?