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To feel terrified after reading the prepping for Brexit threads?

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LittleNapRefuser · 28/07/2018 20:26

I have genuinely cried real tears of fear after reading the threads on prepping for Brexit today. I have a toddler and right now I am terrified of what is to come and their future after all this.

I don't really have anyone to talk to about this in 'real life' because most people I know aren't reading the news or don't seem to care.

Should I be terrified? Should I be scared for my baby's future? Can anyone reassure me or offer me an alternative perspective on all this. I don't want to to put my head in the sand but I feel really afraid.

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AllIHaveToDo · 29/07/2018 00:03

Jeez and they say remainers are hysterical

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 00:04

Erm....it’s coordinate.....sorry

Don't worry a dictionary is also included in the brexit preparation survival kit, after all we do have to keep up standards in post apocalyptic world of post brexit.

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 00:06

Jeez and they say remainers are hysterical

I think this thread and the multitude of similar threads over the past couple of days kind of demonstrates the point in fairness.

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 29/07/2018 00:07

I would really appreciate someone who voted out to tell me, in very simple terms, why it was a good idea and how we’re going to be better off.
Because quite frankly I’m struggling to understand how any of this makes sense

SmellMyBeads · 29/07/2018 00:07

Ireland will help you guys out.... No wait, maybe we won't. Grin

keyboardkate · 29/07/2018 00:07

Inigo,

You should write directly to Theresa May and ask her will HER supply of insulin be disrupted in any way by Brexit.

I can feel your fear. Most of us are whistling past the graveyard and are terrified, with grave doubts and fears of our own, but a little levity helps now and then.

AllIHaveToDo · 29/07/2018 00:07

Justanotherlurker - don't forget to include a book on causality to give people a fighting chance of understanding why the end result is dog poo

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 29/07/2018 00:09

Anyone?

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 29/07/2018 00:10

Because you can’t

EmilyBishopmyconfession · 29/07/2018 00:10

Inigo- I am also sorry to hear about your son's condition.

But the UK is absolutely capable of manufacturing insulin. And so are other countries outside of the EU.

My partner has a disability requiring a pharmacy's worth of medicines, including long-term morphine, to make day-today life bearable.

Things will change, I'm sure. But they won't automatically get worse.

fantasia243 · 29/07/2018 00:13

I'm not terrified - but I AM furious.
Because it's all so unnecessary - and apart from that, so poorly managed by people who are only interested in clinging onto power, and not remotely interested in the best interests of 95% of the population.

rainbowsandsmiles · 29/07/2018 00:13

Of course it's OK for people to vote how they like! That's the whole point of having a vote, is it not? You seriously want to be somewhere where you are told how you must vote? That's a slippery road to go down where you're only allowed to vote if you do it "right."

AllIHaveToDo · 29/07/2018 00:14

Aintnothing - it's simple really. We will be £350million a week better off, we can scourge our green land of foreigners, we will take back control of our borders, and we will have sovereignty. The EU will do us a better trade deal than our current model because they need our produce. And we will be able to trade with, you know, China and New Zealand and all them other far off realms.

Life will be just peachy.

EmilyBishopmyconfession · 29/07/2018 00:16

@EmilyBishopmyconfession hardly a 'tantrum' when the poster said 'you should be thoroughly ashamed' hmm it's an opinion.

Sorry if I misunderstood- nobody should feel shame for having a differing political opinion from somebody else.

AllIHaveToDo · 29/07/2018 00:16

Well last I checked, Aintnothing didn't stop Hairy from voting. She merely expressed an opinion on it. I think that's allowed

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 00:18

I would really appreciate someone who voted out to tell me, in very simple terms, why it was a good idea and how we’re going to be better off.

No you wouldn't, it's a tired tactic and has become a meme in itself.

I have asked the same questions a couple of years ago, now it is just an attempt of faux innocence, there are many articles online to dig through and see the opposing view.

A few that started me on that path was hunting out some of Owen Jones (and I loath the guy) articles before the referendum where he was pro brexit until he decided it was party political thing, moved on to the morning star etc and then read some of Hitchens (again not a fan) stuff.

It is out there, you just don't want to see it and try and play gotcha.

InigoMontoyaWillcox · 29/07/2018 00:18

Not all insulins are the same (something I didn't realise until my son was diagnosed). My son's is made in Denmark.

There is no time left for the UK to start up an insulin manufacturing plant with enough capacity. It's just not that simple.

I wish I had the faith and confidence that everything will be ok, that the govt are not going to let something so catastrophic happen, but can anyone honestly look at our current govt and say they have faith in them and trust them to sort it all out?!

I am fed up of Brexiteers saying "oh we managed to survive before the EU!", and "oh everything will be ok!" woolly vague bullshit crap!

Maybe, maybe, if we had had competent people in charge, and a well thought out plan before article 50, maybe then I would trust it would all be ok. But no, we have a bunch of fucking clowns. No-one has a fucking clue what they are doing!

rainbowsandsmiles · 29/07/2018 00:19

Ain'tnothing - nobody can, that's the whole POINT! You don't know what will happen either, how many times does it have to be said?! Plus, what is the point of people putting their views across when all they get is abuse when they do? It's always the same. This thread demonstrates it and the you should be ashamed comment a case in point. You're either left with an echo chamber of all worrying and saying how awful, how awful, or this level of debate as that's all you're going to get as you are just completely unwilling to listen to anything else. This is why it got it's own section on the first place, as it always ends the same. Not because of some mass conspiracy theory that MN must be in on too as someone actually in all seriousness said on one of the identikit threads.

InigoMontoyaWillcox · 29/07/2018 00:20

AllIHaveToDo Don't forget our blue passports!

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 29/07/2018 00:20

Allihave I’m sensing some sarcasm here

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 00:21

don't forget to include a book on causality to give people a fighting chance of understanding why the end result is dog poo

Oh, I will. There is a couple of versions though, one is thorough and shows why it doesn't neatly lie along political left/right lines and why we are now lurching to the extremes.

But for the base MN model it is just a book that says it's the evil tories fault.

EmilyBishopmyconfession · 29/07/2018 00:22

Absolutely, it is allowed.

That is one of the things about living in a democracy that I'm thankful for.

Lockheart · 29/07/2018 00:22

There will be problems once we leave, which will likely lead to at least some short-term supply issues.

It's not really to do with Brexit per se, but the practical logistics of managing hundreds of thousands of imports. Once we leave, the rules and regs will change overnight, and that takes time to bed in and become the new normal. Whilst that's happening, it's likely we will see some shortages in some areas.

This isn't scaremongering or hysteria, it's just what happens when you introduce a new system. It won't matter what kind of Brexit we have - hard or soft, deal or no deal. Any change would cause problems. It's common sense, not politics.

How we deal with these changes and how long the settling-in period is; that's politics. I admit there isn't much about the government or the opposition that fill me with optimism, but we'll see. In the meantime, it's always sensible to have a small reserve for if you're ill / the car breaks down / you get snowed in. I probably have about ten days worth of food in the house and that's not stockpiling, that's just how I organise myself!

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 00:23

Not all insulins are the same (something I didn't realise until my son was diagnosed). My son's is made in Denmark.

So Novo Nordisk having subsidiaries in denmark are different?

twitter.com/novonordisk/status/1023244554630299648

InigoMontoyaWillcox · 29/07/2018 00:27

I'm not sure what you mean??

My son's insulin is manufactured by NovoNordisk in Denmark. I e-mailed them a few months ago and I have to say their vague reply hasn't exactly filled me with confidence wrt a no deal scenario.

They don't anticipate stock shortages, but it's what happens after it leaves them. That's where the problem will be!