Mixed race kids called mongrels

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Well I am fuming.

I am Asian my husband is white. Me and my husband were walking down the canal in Birmingham city centre today. We were with our 4 month old daughter and my 2 nephews and niece ( 6 to 11 in ages) We walked past a group of 4 young lads. They stared then started sniggering. As we walked passed they shouted "mongrels." This was obviously aimed at the children. We ignored them but I was furious.

I am angry that this was said in front of kids and obviously was a racial insult which hurts. Aibu to be so upset or is this the kind of abuse those in a mixed race relationship do encounter??

I know I should brush it off but didnt expect it in multi racial Birmingham.

Disgusting.
My kids are also a white/south Asian mix and have had some horrible things said.
The most offensive so far I think was “half breeds”
When I’m out with the dcs by myself (I’m at the Casper the friendly ghost end of Caucasian!), I often have people wondering what my dcs heritage is. Mostly that comes in the form of questions like “oh aren’t they adorable! Where does their father come from for them to have inherited their colouring and features?” - curiosity doesn’t bother me. We live in a very farmer-land, white village where the only other person who’s anything but white are the Turkish family who run the takeaway, so I kind of expect people to take a second glance at my kids are they are out of the ordinary where we live. But there are a few members of the community who make me very nervous, as they are open EDL/Tommy Robinson dickheads, who make no effort to hide their moronic views. One of my worst fears is those people being foul to my DC’s

Lacymacy123

I don’t find so they don’t tend to marry black men or mixed raced men

It’s squarely to do with family pressure

My friend was living with a huge man for 6 years she is now married to a asian man her family of from Pakistani background would have disowned her she left the guy on Friday picked up by her brother and married two weeks after they share separate rooms

She loves the guy she spent her 20s with she couldn’t keep him and her family

But mixed race children often are very, very pretty

Is that really racist? I know several mixed race children and they are stunningly gorgeous, much more so than many non mixed race children. I would never say it's because they are mixed race though

But surely this is saying because they are mixed race, they are better looking.

I am baffled by this as I've never looked at mixed race children specifically and thought 'theyre so beautiful'. A black, white or Asian child can be beautiful to me, if I think about it. Which I tend not to.

It's all a bit "Super-Race" isn't it...?

What happens when the children grow up? Since its mixed race 'children' deemed beautiful -why isn't this said about mixed race adults?

It's 'othering' in a 'theyre so exotic' way.

Puts me in mind of Kathy Burke/Wayne & Waynetta Slob sketches in the 90s "I've got mah brown baybay"

Just returned from holiday in a part of the UK. We were stared at mainly by German tourists and the Japanese tourists were mainly rude. The locals were friendly and helpful but my dd was stared at by this particular German woman on the train there. She was an older lady, mid 60's, and she was sitting across the aisle from us. I put myself in between dd & her but she still leant forward to have a good stare. Just so rude and hostile.

Yes, the rise of right wing sentiment is here. Pandora's box has been opened.

@SoleBizzz
It’s because some people do it in a way that is fetishising and others in why which implies the are cuter then children with two black parents.

personally, I like being called mongrel.

I don't think it is the term itself, but the attitude of the people using it that is the issue

she still leant forward to have a good stare. I've lived in Germany, this is culturally acceptable there, even normal, not rude or hostile at all, in fact, can be interpreted almost something that happens instead of a smile

@Dreamscomingtrue
We’re you offended?
If not that’s your personal viewpoint it has no bearing on if someone else is offended.

Claire no, being called a mongrel is insulting, dont accept it. By doing so you help the racist agenda advance. Surely you have more awareness than that?

@metoodear I am asian, I have a massive family, lots of family friends and I can assure you the tide is turning. Ofcourse there are families that are still backwards and controlling but on the whole more Asian women are going to university, waiting longer to get married and choosing their own life partner. Their is a massive difference between thinking you are superior to another race and being relectant to marry someone out of your faith.

of course Brexit has made it worse. the 60s to the 90s was awful but began slowly to improve. 9/11 started a downward spiral made 100% worse by Brexit

You're completely kidding yourself. Nothing 'improved'. The 90's was the time of political correctness, so racists had to hide themselves a bit better than they did before.

Clairetree1 there were plenty of other children on that carriage which she could have stared at but she didn't because they were white. We aren't white so she just stared which I found rude. I found her hostile because she didn't smile, she had a grim expression on her face and made no attempt to talk.

One the first part of our journey, we were sat near a traveller family and they were so friendly. We had a laugh chatting about all sorts & the kids shared their snacks etc. Travellers often have the reputation for being closed and reserved so that was a refreshing change. I generally take people as I find them and I don't make judgements based on skin colour, wealth etc.

hadenough
well I have had enough of comments like this
But so is Brexit England. A country once known for tolerance, now known across the world for being small minded and racist.
this is extremely insulting that you pick out England out of the whole of the UK to denigrate the country I assume you live in.
This country is very tolerant and it is annoying that when you consider that nearly 90% of the country is white/European to be constantly told we are all racist (and small-minded).
This country is not multi-cultural /diverse everywhere but that does not make those who live in these English areas automatically racist. Others on here have insulted Cornwall - I have Cornish and Welsh ancestry so you have insulted my nationality and my country.

@PoisonousSmurf
You sound lovely and not at all racist

metoodear

Why not just say your very pretty rather than ohhh little brown children are so cute I would sleep with a black man just to have one

If people say that (and I don't doubt that they do) then it's despicable. I do notice that some people are very pretty because they have lovely features - it might be auburn hair, green or very blue eyes or the colour of their skin but I think that's because I notice things like that as I'm also a photographer. I see people and think I'd like to take their photograph as they have the kind of face that I think would make a lovely portrait or candid photograph.

I would never ask to touch any child's skin or hair, quite frankly that is weird. My daughter was on the receiving end of it abroad and was very intimidated by it so to experience it frequently must be horrible. I'd struggle to be polite to the muppets who behave like that.

Thanks for explaining.

This is really frustrating to hear ,and sad that people are so bloody nasty..there's no need for it.no excuse for it.nasty .

Dreary. It is brexit England. Stop being so precious.

But one thing I've noticed a lot since 2000, is that more and more coloured people are walking in the countryside.
Never used to see them, ever!

Apart from the use of the term coloured, that's a valid point. A few years ago I read an article by a journalist who was Muslim (this is relevant) and he was explaining why people in his Muslim community didn't tend to go to the countryside or to the national parks. I would hope that, if they wanted to go, these areas were more accessible now to them.

It's difficult though isn't it, I mean should we try to encourage people of different races to visit the national parks or should we just let them decide for themselves? At what point is encouraging it racist as we're effectively saying that white people value these places and we think you should be like white people and value them as well or is it a case that the white majority are making them feel like it's not a place for them?

"There are a lot of black people around here" said by a pps child on page one of this thread.

Is that racist? I am vehemently unracist and share everybody's anger at the racism that seems to be brewing in our society but surely that is just an observation by a child who lives in an area with fewer black people?

Where i live is predominantly white middle class. There are black people and asian people but I never pay heed to folks colour so i never "notice". However i do notice if we go to areas where most are black/asian/etc - anyobe who says they dont is lying. I notice but i dont take notice if that makes sense. Other than being interested in a diverse society i find people interesting. I'd notice if every person had blonde hair.

Would i comment? Absolutely not. Would i say anything to my child if they commented? No. Id probably be embarrased . I might quietly say that it is not polite to comment on someone's appearance.

Its not about making people 'other' it surely must be about celebtating how we are all different yet fundamentally the same?

Sorry - just rambling on and probably making no sense.

With regards to the OP, that is just vile and dispicsble and speaks volumes about the people who made those comments. Uneducated thick scummy gobshites

My experience is that many white people just don’t realise the undertone of racism that exists. I didn’t until I married a North African Muslim immigrant nearly 20 years ago. Maybe Brexit has emboldened a few bigots to speak up but the attitudes are not new.
DH has family in France and believe me there are huge problems with racism and lack of integration there too.

I don’t think it’s brexit.

Seriously, I grew up mixed race in the 80s and 90s and it was absolutely shit.

But then we are so ‘pretty.’

@drearydeardre you’ve been insulted because people pointed out their experiences of those areas? I hate the term snowflake but seriously the term fits in this instance. Should people just accept those experiences and shut up so that you aren’t offended? We wonder why we have an issue with racism when there are people saying you shouldn’t talk about your experiences because it happened in an area I lived in. Racism is rife in this country, examples :
www.theguardian.com/education/2010/apr/04/sats-marking-race-stereotypes

www.theguardian.com/law/2017/oct/26/stop-and-search-eight-times-more-likely-to-target-black-people

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38751307

What’s actually offensive is people thinking this is ok, not the people pointing it out.
I personally love a part of the country and am fully able to accept that the people there can be incredibly racist and it ruins it for me, it doesn’t offend me that people point out things that have happened to them.

The thing is lots of young lads (and girls for that matter) as OP described are just nasty during puberty, especially when in a group.
Most will grow out of it - some will not.
If they had walked past me they would probably have sniggered and said "look at that fat cow". They do it to cause hurt, if they had to say why they would probably be unable to explain their reason.

Racism, along with every "othering" has always existed everywhere in the world. It will always exist because some humans are cunts - for a while, or for their whole miserable lives.

It may be no consolation at all to remember that they are the minority - for every bigot there are dozens who aren't. They don't shout out so you don't hear them.