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Mixed race kids called mongrels

248 replies

Whatsinaname100 · 27/07/2018 23:26

Well I am fuming.

I am Asian my husband is white. Me and my husband were walking down the canal in Birmingham city centre today. We were with our 4 month old daughter and my 2 nephews and niece ( 6 to 11 in ages) We walked past a group of 4 young lads. They stared then started sniggering. As we walked passed they shouted "mongrels." This was obviously aimed at the children. We ignored them but I was furious.

I am angry that this was said in front of kids and obviously was a racial insult which hurts. Aibu to be so upset or is this the kind of abuse those in a mixed race relationship do encounter??

I know I should brush it off but didnt expect it in multi racial Birmingham.

OP posts:
recklessruby · 28/07/2018 06:27

My dd is in a long term relationship with her bf. When her dad (My ex thank God) found out boyfriend was black he said he didn't want to know her unless they split up and wouldn't acknowledge any kids they had. We said his loss. Tbh in the 3 years we were together I didn't know he was so racist.
He actually told dd I had brought her up wrong!
I was brought up in the 70s/80s and my parents didn't care what colour my friends were.
Seems weird and sad to still be happening especially with younger people.
When I have grandchildren they will be mixed race so maybe we will have this.
Sorry OP that's awful. Hard but ignore the ignorance and just think how pathetic they are.

Metoodear · 28/07/2018 06:37

GoldenChildAndIHateIt

I was waiting for it’s not just whites who can be racist as if we don’t that however it’s white people who hold the power and it’s overwhelmingly whites who are the perpetrators of racism

Like when people talk about women being assaulted trans people will come on and started talking about well you know trans woman blah blah blah

Metoodear · 28/07/2018 06:38

recklessruby According to some this is because of brexit 🤦‍♀️

Metoodear · 28/07/2018 06:42

Mawalls

Totally agree many Asians are very hostile to marrying anyone in a different cast or sect laetbaline not Asian
Asians have the lowest rate of interracial marriage in the U.K. so I very surprised the op has had no issues up until now

Metoodear · 28/07/2018 06:56

hadenough

Incredibly sad, disgusting and revolting.

But so is Brexit England. A country once known for tolerance
when was this as a black person I never know tolrance I oavevknown racism since I came into this world spat at called a paki in the 80s told to go home had nazi crosses drawn over our home in the 90s my son is more likey to be arrested by the police than your because he is black it was true in the 80s it’s true in 2018 my son is more likey to get a longer sentence for a similar crime because he is black true in the 90s still Now black boys are more likey to be excluded than their white counterparts true in the 90s true now black women are more likey to sectioned for the same MH issues as their white counterparts true in the 80s true now black men more likey to labelled with a skitozoid disorder white men presenting the same more likey to be told they have depression
Asian and Asian sounding names still less likey to get a job interview
I could go on but I won’t its to sad
So when was this racial paradise you speak
Of
Please do tell because as a black person it must of missed me by

SavoyCabbage · 28/07/2018 07:00

A former next door neighbour of mine actually bought a dog so he could shout 'fucking mongrel' at my toddler.

Faithless12 · 28/07/2018 07:00

@charolais I think you aren’t understanding the wider issue. You didn’t deserve the abuse however, you have limited experience of being discriminated against. Imagine that was mostly your experience, everywhere you go that people make comments about you not belonging etc. Racism is racism, it’s all wrong no one is saying you deserved it but I think you are missing the point the previous poster was making.
Also I agree that Brexit has brought racism out, it’s always occurred but more people seem to think it’s acceptable now.

Charley50 · 28/07/2018 07:08

@SandyY2K - maybe the adventure golf place wanted to attract a more diverse range of customers.

user546425732 · 28/07/2018 07:10

""But mixed race children often are very, very pretty

Is that really racist? I know several mixed race children and they are stunningly gorgeous, much more so than many non mixed race children. I would never say it's because they are mixed race though.

Faithless12 · 28/07/2018 07:13

@clairetree1 trying checking the origins of mongrel en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongrel
Not the product of intentional breeding, it’s not a nice term for dogs let alone humans.

greendale17 · 28/07/2018 07:13

I couldn’t tell you what we experienced on holiday in Cornwall people staring open ducking mouthed never go back their again we will

^My friend too experienced this reaction in Cornwall and Scotland

Metoodear · 28/07/2018 07:15

user546425732

Yes it is would you walk up to a white child anywhere and say OMG your so pretty can I touch your skin and hair

Very odd it’s othering

And if you really must say how pretty a child is

Why not just say your very pretty rather than ohhh little brown children are so cute I would sleep with a black man just to have one

(Things that have actually been said to me)

longwayoff · 28/07/2018 07:15

What title would you prefer savannah? That's what happened therefore title. Not hard to work out is it?

Maidsrus · 28/07/2018 07:16

Do these four lads think they are some sort of pure breed? We are all mongrels!!!

But the OP and other stories are very upsetting and shocking.

I really wish horrible people like this didn’t exist.

LaLaLanded · 28/07/2018 07:19

Unsurprised, OP. There are pockets of racism everywhere in the UK. The shock is the worst thing.

I was called the N word on the bus as a schoolgirl - the police were great about it and very helpful. I got quite a bit while pregnant - and some when DS was younger. This is in London. I have a theory that people take the opportunity when they ‘smell’ vulnerability... which is very sad.

People talking about ‘positive’ racism, there is no such thing. I’m mixed race (black/white which is what everyone seems to default to) and therefore so is DS. We are not a homogenous mass of ‘cute’ and are not the acceptable face of blackness that the media seems to want to portray us as. I have had a lot of very patronising comments in regard to being mixed, and re DS being mixed.

I also model (silver lining to the fetishisation of ‘mixed-race?!’ - I do sometimes wonder if I’m selling out) and note that a large percentage of the models I meet are either white and classically pretty, or fall on the spectrum of ‘exotic’. Not many dark skinned black girls. This is more commercial modelling rather than high fashion where there is even less diversity. Colourism is alive and well...

carbuncleonapigsposterior · 28/07/2018 07:20

Truly appalled at the hideous comments on this thread that some people have been on the receiving end of, particularly in this day and age when we live in a multi cultural society. I guess it's the vile side of human nature that exists in all societies. There was a recent report of a group of Polish men jailed for jumping on the head of a young Polish girl in their community for dating an English boy, although I'm not trying to imply that they are typical, just an example of unacceptable behaviour in another nationality.

Lacymacy123 · 28/07/2018 07:21

@metoodear I'm asian and I would say things are changing very rapidly. The younger generation are marrying outside their caste and some are even married to whites. This is partly to do with the younger generation valuing their independence, speaking up for want they want and the older generation realising that times are changing. I wish i could say that about Britain being less racist but sadly i can't

Metoodear · 28/07/2018 07:26

Lacymacy123

However things at changing but I think you can still find lots of Asian families were the whole family is Asian right down the family tree

You would struggle in black families in2018 to find a black family that doesn’t have at least one white person in it

longwayoff · 28/07/2018 07:34

Frankly charolais I'd want you and your obnoxious distorted views out of my cafe too and they dont come whiter or more English than me. I'm sorry for your experience OP and hope its not repeated. There will sadly always be twats with closed minds and open mouths, hopefully their current prominence will wither away and they can slink back to the margins where they belong.

PoisonousSmurf · 28/07/2018 07:36

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longwayoff · 28/07/2018 07:41

What? Coloured people in the countryside? Whatever next? People walking, whod have thought it.

queenofthecasa · 28/07/2018 07:42

PoisonousSmurf- I mean this kindly; Please don't ever use the term 'coloured' to describe a person who is not white. It is extremely ignorant

Metoodear · 28/07/2018 07:51

She try’s to mimanise racism against black and Asians then uses the term coloured

And the shock about black people dare to come out of their urban cage this attatuide did not devlope due to brexit

Shocking and know doubt the poster is in a position of power

If she teaches how wil these views translate in the class room

If she is hr will these views colour who she allows to get to interview stage

It’s not the overt people this is the real issue

AgentJohnson · 28/07/2018 08:00

Racism is stupid, so whenever someone says something supposedly to make me feel less than, I just say why would you broadcast your stupidity. The comment says more about them, than it could ever say about me. I don’t give them what they want, which is the power by me being offended.

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