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Mixed race kids called mongrels

248 replies

Whatsinaname100 · 27/07/2018 23:26

Well I am fuming.

I am Asian my husband is white. Me and my husband were walking down the canal in Birmingham city centre today. We were with our 4 month old daughter and my 2 nephews and niece ( 6 to 11 in ages) We walked past a group of 4 young lads. They stared then started sniggering. As we walked passed they shouted "mongrels." This was obviously aimed at the children. We ignored them but I was furious.

I am angry that this was said in front of kids and obviously was a racial insult which hurts. Aibu to be so upset or is this the kind of abuse those in a mixed race relationship do encounter??

I know I should brush it off but didnt expect it in multi racial Birmingham.

OP posts:
PickAChew · 27/07/2018 23:51

Replying to savanna, there

Metoodear · 27/07/2018 23:55

PositiveVibez

Yes please don’t bring politics because I always had rasict abuse before brexit was even an idea most black and Asian will have a story of overt racism that PRE DATES BREXIT racists were racist before brexit and we’re not afraid to voice their hate

If your not sure ask any black person asian person who went to school in the 80s 90s

barefootinkitchen · 27/07/2018 23:55

That’s horrible. And yes I agree you would expect that not to happen in multicultural Birmingham. Then again I suppose there’s racists everywhere.

Other posters saying they get stared at while holidaying in the UK .Could it be that they haven’t actually seen people of other ethnicities in real life? When I’ve travelled in places where there are no whites I always got stares and people pointing but thought it was just because it was rare to see someone that looked like me. Also got people asking to take photos with me and touch my hair.

KickAssAngel · 27/07/2018 23:56

"positive" racism is still racism. Seeing people as "other" (ie, not the "norm" of white), commenting on it and making a "thing" of it is racism, even if it's a "nice" form of racism. It makes people uncomfortable. (A bit like if you ever got a new hair cut as a kid and everyone, all day, kept saying how nice your hair looked).

I think a lot of people (almost all of them white) are blissfully blinkered to just how racist the UK is. I'm a Brit living in the US, and when I come home to visit, the racism seems obvious and is quite a culture shock compared to where I live in a liberal left-wing college town. I find many comments on MN quite shocking as well.

NewGrandad · 27/07/2018 23:57

Blame the Grandparents. They're the evil ones.

SandyY2K · 27/07/2018 23:58

Sorry to bring politics into it, but with Brexit, trump, rees-mogg, Boris et al, these bigots seem to feel entitled to say whatever they want

It's nothing to do with Brexit or other politics.

I've had this way before any of that.

Racecardriver · 27/07/2018 23:59

Meh, just some proles-why should you care? I have never had anyone say anything explicitly about my children (although lots of crtisism about my decision to marry outside my very tiny race which is ironic because my race is itself a product of intermarriage between three other races over the course of five hundred years). I can't say that I could bring myself to give a shit about what people like that think to be perfectly honest.

SendYouUpInFlames · 28/07/2018 00:00

This is awful I am so so sorry.

I am white british and I live on a mixed race estate. Mainly Asians etc. I always try extra to smile or say hello when walking by.

Racecardriver · 28/07/2018 00:02

@kicjassangel yy to that, I grew up abroad. The extent to which races are segregated here (and how much this is rnpitagr by politicians and the 'liberal' left) was quite shocking. Multiculturalism at its finest.

LoveInTokyo · 28/07/2018 00:08

Horrible behaviour.

You would think the UK was sufficiently multi-cultural by now that people wouldn't bat an eyelid, but sadly not.

SandyY2K · 28/07/2018 00:09

I've never heard of positive racism.

I was at school in the 80s. My brother was called the N word on a regular basis in school.

When he hit a boy for it...my mum was called in. DM asked why the boy did it and what was his punishment was as DB was abused regularly.

The Head said there was one of DB and what was he to do as he couldn't expel all the others.

My mum gave the Head quite a mouthful she was fuming.

This is definetly not political thing.

GoldenChildAndIHateIt · 28/07/2018 00:10

Whatsinaname100 Am so sorry this happened to you and your kids. sometimes i think this country is stuck in a time warp. i would like to think the human race has moved on from such stupid nasty comments.

Flowers to you and yours

LoveInTokyo · 28/07/2018 00:11

Metoodear

But mixed race children often are very, very pretty.

And so is afro hair. I can understand why people want to touch it. I want to touch it. But you can't, you have to respect people's boundaries and bodily autonomy.

GoldenChildAndIHateIt · 28/07/2018 00:12

my mum gave the head quite a mouthful Good for your mum Sandy

victoriaspongecake · 28/07/2018 00:13

Don't you think 'mongrels' is a strange word for a 'young lad' to use? Its a word I have only ever heard middle aged people use ( in relation to dogs) never heard a younger person use it.

GoldenChildAndIHateIt · 28/07/2018 00:14

Love But saying mixed race children often are very, very pretty is very differerent from calling a mixed race child a mongrel. The latter is racist.

Dreamscomingtrue · 28/07/2018 00:15

In the 80’s I visited China and Kenya. I was fussed over (my hair was touched because it’s fine and silky) and I was photographed because I have fair hair and eyes, should I have been offended?

LoveInTokyo · 28/07/2018 00:15

Yes, I agree. "Mongrel" is clearly and obviously racist.

Nagaram · 28/07/2018 00:15

onlyjoined if this was an elderly person, it is very likely it is dementia. My lovely sweet gentle FIL has said some horrendous things recently - some racist and he really wouldn’t have said them before.

Lifeisabeach09 · 28/07/2018 00:16

Nothing to do with Brexit or current political rhetoric.
Racism in the UK is not a new thing.
To be honest, OP, I'd have laughed and said 'please, what is this..the 80s?!' Mongrel, indeed, how passe!;)
Btw, I'm White/Asian.

MistressDeeCee · 28/07/2018 00:16

My nephew is mixed race. At 5 years old whilst playing out he was racially abused. He didn't even know what the words said to him meant. I'm black so never surprised by racism. & we are in London.

SIL is white. She and my brother are stared at in Cornwall, but a little less nowadays because people are used to seeing them - SIL's mum lives there.

I remember going to the Tropical Waterpark next to Alton Towers with my DCs when they were little. A woman stared at them for absolutely ages then said to her husband "look, aren't those kids brown...!".

The place was Caribbean themed, steel band playing outside but she was in OMG BROWN PEOPLE mode. Just weird.

A friend has a mixed race DD. She's only little and last week was doing that thing of trying to help mummy - she had a wet rag wiping the window. Neighbour walks up smiles and says "oh they're so cute aren't they🙄, and SUCH hard workers"..

Sadly OP you'll have to get used to it.

I've seen other posts on here where parents of mixed race kids seem to have zero awareness that their child will experience racism at some stage in their life. I wonder what bubble they live in but it will surely burst.

England has really shown it's true...'colours ' since Brexit, dog whistle politics, and racist media shit stirring. Alf Garnett's everywhere

Bunnyfuller · 28/07/2018 00:16

My DH is Eastern European. They’re the new black, doncha know?!

We’ve also experienced some horrific things aimed at us, including my family boycotting our wedding nearly 17 years ago ‘he’s just after a passport’ to work colleagues ‘joking with’ him saying either he should wash cars or be a modern day slave.

I am so disappointed in so many so-called British people’s horrific racism and genuinely don’t understand why the fuck does it matter. I’m Irish/American background, adopted by white British, and I reckon most everyone everywhere doesn’t need to go far back to realise they’re a bloody foreigner too!!

Dreamscomingtrue · 28/07/2018 00:16

I think mixed raced children are beautiful. My grandchildren are mixed race.

GoldenChildAndIHateIt · 28/07/2018 00:18

I find it laughable that Brexit is being brought into a discussion about racism, when some of the countries in the EU are actually asking Jews and Roma to register themselves. Yes, Britain is a racist country too, but when Brexiteers try to not align themsleves with a continent full of a much darker, more sinister kind of racism, they are the ones called racist???

GoldenChildAndIHateIt · 28/07/2018 00:20

Dreamscomingtrue i think mixed race children are beautiful i do too. i did use to stroke my African boyfriend's afro hair, but he was my boyfriend! would never do it to anyone else!