Neighbour's toddler waking entire street up

[Myheadhurtsintheheat]

I've NC'd for this as it might be outing.

Our NDN has an 22-month-old DC who doesn't talk much but squawks like a parrot at top volume. I swear this is no exaggeration - it's the most bizarre noise. From what we can tell, toddler's parents never encourage him not to make the noise - they just let him squawk. I think they're from the "be expressive" school of thought.

My AIBU is that they're bringing him out into their back garden at 6.30am when he's up and he's squawking everyone awake, including my DC, whose room is at the back too. I get that it's very hot and really hard for kids to sleep at the moment, but isn't it incredibly selfish to inflict that noise on everyone else if you're not going to try to teach the child to moderate it when appropriate? Or am I just being a grumpy old moaner?

And if INBU, should I say something?

@formerbabe are you pretending to be thick or are you really thick? Can you not see how 8am would be preferable to the majority of people than 6.30am?

@formerbabe its called being a decent person/neighbour and no a selfish bugger!!
shes not saying not let the child out just not let them out so early when they are squawking and waking everyone else up at 6.30am....

Very selfish of the neighbour. Politely tell them that it's waking you and the family up and ask them to not have noise outside at such a stupidly early hour.

If it doesn't stop shout "Quiet Please!" from your bedroom window every time it does.

@kaytee87 You cannot pick an arbitrary time out of thin air and expect someone to abide by it? Are you thick or just rude? On what grounds would you expect someone to abide by 8am? Is this random time legally enforceable?

Well unless they are very stupid they will be aware that at 6:30 am people will be asleep and in this hot weather have their windows open.

Of course a screeching toddler is going to wake people up so yes, it is a choice.

@kaytee87

There's certainly a very obvious case of the tiresome faux naiveties going on.

@formerbabe I didn't actually suggest any time. 6.30am would be unacceptable to the majority of people I know. It's nothing to do with the law and everything to do with being a decent human being.

There's certainly a very obvious case of the tiresome faux naiveties going on

Not really. Of course 8 am is preferable to 6.30am. Doesn't mean people can randomly make up rules for their neighbours to abide by?

In your opinion, what are the reasons the majority of people would find 8 am preferable, Former?

Clearly they are a) using outdoor play at the coolest time in a heatwave b) giving each other a quieter lie in.

However they may be mortified to realise their selfishness. Or not. I would politely call out of the window when it happens.

Oh Jesus @formerbabe no one is randomly making up rules. They're suggesting that the op might ask the neighbour to avoid their child making so much noise in the garden until later in the morning instead of them being woken up constantly. Not laying down the law, just suggesting what might make life more harmonious.

Former must have a very exhausting and aggravating life with her attitude.

In your opinion, what are the reasons the majority of people would find 8 am preferable, Former?

It's obvious and irrelevant.

One neighbour cannot make up a random rule...and make the other neighbour to follow it. Of course, it might be nice and considerate but you cannot write your own laws and expect others to abide by it.

Who's writing laws? 😂😂 telling your neighbour you're being woken up by their child and asking if they could keep said child inside until a later time is not writing laws, it's just asking someone to be more considerate.

WTAF? YANBU. Who the fuck puts a 22 month old child outside like a dog? 6.30 is ridiculous. I'd have to say something.

Yes, you can ask and they'd be well within their rights to tell you to get lost.

Why are you being so deliberately goady formerbabe? Not once have I said anything about imposing a time rule on our neighbours, FFS.

It's obvious and irrelevant

If it's obvious then it's hardly the 'arbitrary time' you were claiming it was. You're actually hilarious. It's almost like you've made a bet with someone to be ridiculous.

"Because it's a baby...it's hot weather at the moment so probably going outside while it's cooler."

Would it be ok to let my 12 year old howl and shriek in the garden at 6.30 am too? He wouldn't be able to help the noise either

Formerbabe is probably your neighbour

@JacquesHammer...not agism...just using the exact wording as the OP put in her original post! FFS!

formerbabe

I suspect that they are doing what they are doing to make their lives easier without a thought to the OPor anyone else.

I don't think that they should take offence to being asked politely to keep him in the house till a bit later. Mind you they probably will as most reasonable people wouldn't go out that early in the first place.

Right now my poor kids (11 and 9) are on their knees with tiredness and it's not even noon. But god forbid I dare even think about complaining about the impact their 22-month-old's screaming HE'S NEARLY TWO HES NOT A BABY is having on them.

If it's obvious then it's hardly the 'arbitrary time' you were claiming it was. You're actually hilarious

Wow, logic is not your strong point is it?

Later is better than earlier, therefore 9am is better than 8am. That's perfectly obvious. So why not pick 9am or 10am? Because, like I said 8am is an arbitrary time plucked out of thin air.