AIBU to be worried about the normalisation of far right politics?

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Just that really. I'm interested in what people consider to be far right and what people think causes it and what should be done about it.

I think it's caused by inequality and people feeling hopeless.

The cause is the communist, antisemite Jeremy Corbyn, the idiot Diane Abbot, the terrorist John McDonnell, Momentum etc

Get rid of them and lets have parties worth voting for.

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Normalisation of far right politics? Haven’t noticed that happening myself...

What far-right political ideas have been 'normalised'?

Well DieAntword and user1472651064 if you don't think so then you must think IABU.

I suppose things like the seperation of children from parents in the USA and people defending it as ok. Immigrants being described as 'infesting' places. I realise both of these things are USA based, but a close ally of Donald Trump, Steve Bannon, who ran the very right wing site Breitbart has been having talks with Boris Johnson.

Socialism being constantly called communism is another when they are two different things.

YANBU and the worst thing is that people just can't see it.

YANBU! The first reply on this thread demonstrates your point completely.

Bit late now the country's infested, but better late then never right?

I am more worried about the fair left

They non platform anyone

University are no longer platforms for debate and new ideas

They are anti Semitic they have done the sums and thought fuck it more Muslims than Jews so fuck the jews

They also place more value on stright white male view feelings than women’s hence the trans debate

Far left are the ones acting like fascists

Calling socialism communism isn’t “far right” - it’s not a political position at all just an ignorant conflation of two things that are incredibly broad in their own right (and to be fair have aspects of overlap).

Can’t really talk about American politics because I don’t really pay attention to it especially since it became a complete and utter farce when Trump was elected.

I agree. The Left are the ones we need to worry about. I’m absolutely disgusted by the anti Semitism and misogyny coming out of the Labour Party. They’re a disgrace.

Black people were being systematically killed by the police under Obama and under Clinton under every president since slavey

Things have not gotten worse for minority’s they just have camera phone

What happened to the windrush generation, murder of jo cox mp, rise of racist rhetoric/attacks, support for tommy Robinson clearly has passed many people by, or simply doesn’t bother them at all.

Seems odd but there you go.

I wonder if the thinks coming out of the Labour Party about Jews

We’re about black peoples would the jermary die hards still be singing ohhhh Jeramy Corbyn at festivals

Utter hyperbole

The UK is conspicuous by its virtual absence of 'far right' parties. Unless you are one of those people who seriously thinks the Tory Party or UKIP are up there with Golden Dawn, Partij voor de Vrijheid and Front National. The BNP when the got a sniff of power at local level were soon shown to be wingnuts that there were before slipping back to the fringes and the EDL are about as far away from power as can be imagined. Around these parts wanting a strong immigration policy is portrayed as the 1290 Edict of Expulsion.

Murdering Jo Cox wasn’t a “normalisation” it was a horrific crime and rightly accepted as such by more or less everyone...

I dislike Corbyn and many on the left, but pretending that there is no problem with the far-right today is properly the stuff of morons.

Unsurprisingly, the brexiteers are here.

If only David Milliband was Labour leader, or Yvette Cooper or Andy Burnham. If I have to choose between Boris, Rees mogg or Corbyn I just won't vote. The world has gone mad lately. Perhaps Anna Soubris would make a good prime minister. We might then get another referendum. The last one had Russian interference to add Brexit, illegal overspending to as Brexit and lots of people, me included who had no idea what the customs union was. Extreme right, you are right, and extreme left. Us centrists need to shout more.

MeTooDear They are anti Semitic they have done the sums and thought fuck it more Muslims than Jews so fuck the jews

THIS

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What happened to the windrush generation, murder of jo cox mp, rise of racist rhetoric/attacks, support for tommy Robinson clearly has passed many people by, or simply doesn’t bother them at all.

Seems odd but there you go.

My family are black as I my dad came over on the wind rush

As a black person I much more concerned that the white middle classes still not allowing our kids in to oxford and Cambridge
Much more alarmed at the rate black boys are excluded

Tommy unemployed Robinson is feckless he effects me and my mixed family a lot less that white middle class rasicts

They effect jobs
University entry
Education of my children

I would call it the re-classification of normal politics as far right.

The main stream is about where they always were - broadly right of centre on some issues, broadly left of centre on others, it's just that now people are labelled right wing nutters for things that have been uncontroversial to say for basically all of our lifetimes.

Vocal "progressives" have PUSHED normal people into a category of "far right" and now believe they live in the fourth reich. Normal hasn't changed at all really.

Hang on, normalisation? Is it more normal than 90 years ago when people were being herded into camps, kicked out of home & jobs?

I don't personally think we've gone any more to the right than we were in the 80's when racism & sexism were blatant & rife....

"No Dogs, Blacks or Irish" signs on B&B's for example.

I do think that people now like to think things are going to hell in a hand basket despite never having had it so good!!!

First posts on this thread: "Oh, but what about Corbyn?" I wish I could be surprised.

And antisemitism exists on both sides of the political divide. It doesn't help that anyone who objects to Israel's policies (no self-determination for Arab Israeli's, by recent law being a particularly glaring example) is immediately also tarred with the anti-Semite brush. Despite many Jews objecting to these policies too.

The far right discourse is indeed scary and it isn't just Trump - it's there in Hungary, France and Poland and it goes hand in hand with rolling back the rights of ethnic minorities, women and the LGBT community.