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Original poster

Aibu MNHQ does not want us to debate brexit on the main boards

381 replies

Quietrebel · 26/07/2018 10:25

Just that.

Someone shared a link to the Independent's Final Say petition. The most important debate this nation can have right now is on the final brexit deal. This was promptly buried in the 'petitions' section.
This isn't any old petition. It concerns all mums/ citizens. If someone wants to share it with the wider MN community, they should be able to.

OP posts:
ferrier · 27/07/2018 11:04

I applaud MNHQ for putting it on the right place. There's a whole load of AIBU that doesn't belong there and crowds out the genuine AIBU.
There's no such thing as a 'main' board. And it's not up to you to degree that your topic is so important that it needs pride of place somewhere. If it is important then people will post on it and it will remain in active topics or trending.

ferrier · 27/07/2018 11:04

*decree

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 11:07

I asked why I couldn't log in. No reply.

I am not a conspiracy theorist at all, but after months and months of observing the obvious difference in treatment of leavers and remainers by MNHQ and then finally not being able to log in and getting no explanation for it, I was forced to conclude that something very odd was going on.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 27/07/2018 11:08

It’s not doom mongering, it’s the thruth.

Brexit is undeliverable the way it was sold to the electorate.

It’s either crash out at great cost to the country or stay in.

Hard leavers have their heads in the sand.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 11:08

It's not doomongering is it when the government is actually saying we will need to stockpile food.

Ah yes, I forgot the other thread the other day that wasn't doom mongering at all.
Totally rational response to kick your bath panels in and hoard Spam and to go and bury some more in the woods like others were saying they were going to do.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 11:09

Hard leavers have their heads in the sand.

I voted Remain actually.

Original poster
Quietrebel · 27/07/2018 11:11

Ferrier, pride of place would suggest more prominence than other aibu topics. That's not at all the case. We're just saying it should be left as one of them. You on the other hand decree it should be assigned to a place with less traffic. You're the one trying to decree where it should sit.

OP posts:
OnlyFoolsnMothers · 27/07/2018 11:11

Ive seen plenty of AIBU threads re: brexit, a petition link should get moved- really dont see any need to keep questioning it.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 11:12

and before you fixate on the word Spam and insist that I've got it wrong as nobody mentioned Spam, replace the word Spam with tinned beef/sardines/spuds/tinned carrots/jelly cubes/whatever.

Motheroffourdragons · 27/07/2018 11:14

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ on behalf of the poster.

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 11:14

Who is fixating on spam?

Personally I think we should focus on the bigger issues.

Like what are we going to do about the border in Ireland?

drearydeardre · 27/07/2018 11:15

Based on the farm-gate value of unprocessed food in 2015, the UK supplied over half (52%) of the food consumed in the UK. The leading foreign suppliers of food consumed in the UK were countries from the EU (29% of the food consumed in the UK) and Africa, Asia, North and South America (all providing a 4% share).
still panic buying and stockpiling?
eat more fresh unprocessed food that is in season

drearydeardre · 27/07/2018 11:17

and I hate the use of the term 'crash out'
we will 'leave', 'quit', 'exit' Smile

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 11:17

drearydeardre

I don't see how choosing to eat more fresh, unprocessed food that is in season (a good suggestion in itself) is going to help in the event of food shortages.

Quite the opposite, actually. If there are food shortages then you will be better off stocking up on frozen and tinned food.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 27/07/2018 11:18

If there is no deal then crashing out is the appropriate phrase.

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 11:19

^and I hate the use of the term 'crash out'
we will 'leave', 'quit', 'exit'^

I don't give a shiny shit what word we use for "leaving". What I want to know is where we are going.

What is the plan?

There is a plan, right?

Oh.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 27/07/2018 11:19

But we will leave crashing out if we get no deal.

Hate it all you want.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 11:20

Who is fixating on spam?

Well, nobody yet, that was my whole point - pre-empting the replies.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 11:23

I was forced to conclude that something very odd was going on.

Your tin foil hat's slipping a bit, better re-adjust it before they all GET you Hmm

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 11:23

"Pre-empting" the point that no one has shown any signs of making?

Well, it's one way to detract from the real issues and avoid making any kind of sensible argument, I suppose.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 11:25

"Pre-empting" the point that no one has shown any signs of making?

Got it. You're being deliberately obtuse. Rightio.

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 11:25

Oh and you can make silly comments about tin foil hats all you like, but you can't explain the mysterious bannings or completely different application of the "MN talk guidelines" to leavers and remainers.

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 11:26

Well no one has shown any signs of making that point, have they?

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 11:29

Oh and you can make silly comments about tin foil hats all you like, but you can't explain the mysterious bannings or completely different application of the "MN talk guidelines" to leavers and remainers

As mentioned, how the hell do you KNOW that there's different rules for Leavers and different rules for Remainers?

1 - how do you know how everyone voted? You don't.

2 - have you asked each and every one of the posters if they've had a lock out of their account? Or did you just ask inside of your echo chamber?

I did explain the banning. Aliens or gremlins. Well,it makes as much sense as the theory that and I quote "MN HQ is on it too!"

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 11:34

As mentioned, how the hell do you KNOW that there's different rules for Leavers and different rules for Remainers?

Because I could plainly see the posts that were deleted and the posts that were left. Including, on one memorable occasion, one post by a remainer which a leaver had quoted in its entirety so it could still in fact be seen (even though the original post had been deleted) and was plainly not abusive and did not infringe the talk guidelines in any way.

1 - how do you know how everyone voted? You don't.

Because all of this took place on the Brexit discussion board between posters who were all openly on one side or the other. Obviously. Hmm

2 - have you asked each and every one of the posters if they've had a lock out of their account? Or did you just ask inside of your echo chamber?

None of the prolific leavers mysteriously disappeared, or started posting under a different name and complained that they had been locked out of their account. Several remainers did, and were met with gleeful cries of "well you obviously deserved it, hahahaha!" from goady fuckers leavers who had actually and repeatedly been abusive towards remainers without suffering any consequences.

I did explain the banning. Aliens or gremlins. Well,it makes as much sense as the theory that and I quote "MN HQ is on it too!"

No it doesn't. HTH.