A dbs check should have been done ?

[TheWanderingWonderer]

Aibu?
Nursery setting and a parent had to stay with their child for approx 4 months each morning and then to go in each time to administer medication.
Surely given that it was a prolonged thing that they knew about the parent needed a dbs check. Was just in the room but took the child to the toilet etc when others in there and wasn’t always supervised
Should they have done a check (if it’s relevant there is a caution for violence/assault)

Why are you avoiding this question?
Not just your question but my questions as well.

It is like asking a politician a question. You ask a question and they start talking about something completely different or repeating nonsense to you.

If the nursery manager is concerned about the child she needs to contact the relevant authorities. If she was an expert she would know this.

She cannot force anyone to attend nursery

The manager is a childcare expert with many years experience in early years
But even though she is so wonderful and so knowledgeable, you didn't trust her judgement on DBS checks?

That is very weird.

Just a thought - where is the child in all this? You have just blahed on about protocol and process and whatever the latest little 'module' or 'course' is stating. The Child - what do you see with The Child?

She sounds like a total knob
I don't believe that any one other than the OP has said or done anything at all.

The OP's aunt's sister's cousin's best friend heard that the mother had a caution for assault and the OP decides that she has to do something because the mother once took her parking space.

Or something like that, maybe

Informal information sharing is things like "her dad's in hospital at the moment, so she might be a bit sensitive at the moment". Not "she's got a caution for assault so better keep an eye on her"

If one of you had concerns, either through something you observed or something that you knew from another source outside nursery, you should take it to your manager and let them decide whether it's something that needs to be shared more widely amongst staff, followed up with other agencies, or simply noted down in a file and no further action.

Have a read of this link OP www.londoncp.co.uk/chapters/sharing_info.html

Potentially your colleague shared confidential information with you when she told you about the caution, and from what you've said it's unlikely that it would meet the threshold for a public interest disclosure.

You need to get your manager to re-state how sensitive information is handled at the nursery, because either you've got the wrong end of the stick or your manager is in danger of acting illegally in how confidential information is managed in her setting

My main question was should a dbs have been done. Apparently not it wasn’t necessary that’s what I was posting about to get an answer about that.
Everything else maybe I have said too much, I am just going by what a very experienced early years manager has told me. She was very clear we needed to keep a close eye as she had an inclination something wasn’t right and she was doing some digging and making sure everyone kept talking. She’s v hot on safeguarding and possibly is over vigilant about things but better to be safe than sorry was what she kept saying
I think it was only a few red flags from the ex homestart volunteer that triggered her concerns and then she wanted to get more information

Yes that’s why I asked as she’s so hot on safeguarding and I thought everyone therefore would be dbs checked but I’ve seem now it’s not always necessary and if it’s not necessary you can’t just do it regardless

is the child ( and so the mother) being forced to attend so the nursery gets the funding for the child.

To the contrary persiancatlady

I have nothing against her at all. I feel in some ways it was a bit of a witch hunt but I trust the judgement of those at the setting. I just wasn’t duly aware on how dbs checks are requested I thought any adult in a setting in any capacity if there for that long would have one

Funding was mentioned yes but I don’t think it was so the nursery got the funding ?? I think it was just an additional factor mentioned to the parents
The child has left now

Well, your Manager needs to rein in her thinking - she is indicative of why many people including those in need and those more educated and those that are more worldly-wise choose to avoid engaging with her services. She is the problem. And dreadful that she is encouraging her methods amongst her staff - the end result will be that those that need the nursery most won't go.

Cross-post - "the child has left now". OP - learn a big big lesson from this.

If your manager is so amazing at safeguarding then why would you doubt her??

I am sorry but you are just a busybody.

You didn't need to come on here and share confidential data with MN, you could have got your answer using Google and kept her data private.

If I were your employer and I knew that you had posted this, I would be terminating your employment in the morning.

I wouldn't be surprised if your boss or the Mum herself hasn't read this thread and realised who it relates to so you may find yourself having a bad day at work tomorrow.

Well I have the answer about dbs checks now
I think it’s a difficult situation but I stand by the manager on all other points she had concerns and has worked with enough people to have a good sense of judgement so she drummed it into us about sharing anything and not engaging with the parents to always refer everything back to her. She atvone pointbhad to change the child’s key worker as felt there was too much interaction and wanted it to be totally professional so changed it as she was then kept informed of all conversations as there had apparently been some outside of setting chats and she felt the previous keyworker was too over familiar with then

The child has left now
That makes it even worse that you have revealed confidential data and there is no possible reason for doing so as the child is no longer at the nursery.

Honestly OP, I am increasingly feeling sorry for this poor woman who may have made one minor mistake in the past and is having a load of gossipy witches try and find an excuse to pick on her and try to force a situation where her child might lose their access to education.

You sound like an A grade bully. You’ve put together a load of half understood information and gossip to condemn this person.

The worst thing about it is that you are so clearly enjoying sticking the boot into this person. A person who is struggling with an unwell child.

And rather than deal with any concerns you have professionally and discretely, you’ve come on to Mumsnet to make a nasty and identifiable post.

You are a horrible, horrible person OP. Grow up.

I wouldn’t have liked to question her as to why a dbs hadn’t been done
Clearly she knew it wasn’t necessary

but I trust the judgement of those at the setting.

Then this post would be pointless, right?

Like I said I wouldn’t want to question the manager as to whether she was doing her job correctly so asked here
And yes I do trust someone with the amount of experience she has, that doesn’t make her the most approachable person in the world though so I asked here

The information you have put on here, I sincerely hope someone spots it so you are sacked.

Revealing the amount you have on here is disgusting and disgraceful.

No parent should have to feel that if their family has issues some jumped up harpy is going to broadcast it on the internet.

Shame on you OP.

Like I said I wouldn’t want to question the manager as to whether she was doing her job correctly so asked here

But apparently you trust their judgement. Which is it?

I trust her Judgement but to question her at all would not be a good idea. It’s not something I’d do

Is this a private nursery or a school nursery?
A DBS check costs money, who would have to pay for it?
My mum has a criminal conviction for wounding, and works as a health care assistant....

It’s a registered charity so not private or school