A dbs check should have been done ?

[TheWanderingWonderer]

Aibu?
Nursery setting and a parent had to stay with their child for approx 4 months each morning and then to go in each time to administer medication.
Surely given that it was a prolonged thing that they knew about the parent needed a dbs check. Was just in the room but took the child to the toilet etc when others in there and wasn’t always supervised
Should they have done a check (if it’s relevant there is a caution for violence/assault)

I don't think a parent would be DBS checked in this circumstance no. They are there for their child in a parental role not as a member of staff employed by the nursery.

Plenty of parents have social services involvement, some have even got convictions etc... but we can't ban them from parenting their children who use the school/nursery - I go and read for 30 mins a week as do plenty of other parents. None of us have been DBS checked as we don't need to be to be parents

If we were volunteers or employees we would be

I've never known a nursery to constantly supervise children 3+ in the toilets.

DBS only required if participating in regulated activities. It doesn’t sound like the parent was so no DBS required.

There are two separate issues at hand here.

In the role the parent was carrying out no DBS check was required. And, legally, no DBS check should have been carried out. Nurseries (any setting) can’t just DBS check anyone they want. They are only for people doing regulated work (paid or voluntary) and the parent wasn’t.

However, the nursery shouldn’t allow a parent to have unsupervised access to other children. If the age of the nursery children means they go to the toilets unsupervised than a solo adult shouldn’t be in there with children. Especially someone who is not nursery staff. If their child needed assistance a better system should have been out in place but that shouldn’t have been a cas of simply doing a check on the parent.

I don’t know any more than it was a caution for common assault against another adult
A single caution for assault would be filtered after six years and therefore any DBS would not show it.

How do you KNOW that a DBS was not done?

Can somebody just clarify this for me though??

Why did the mother go to nursery for 4 months, I am not being sarcastic or anything, I just don't understand the point of putting your child in nursery and then having to be there yourself.

Sorry and thanks for answering this for me.

SAHM
Was told that it would be classed as a parenting issue if the child was withdrawn (had started a few months prior). But that she HAD to support till they were fully trained and also confident

You can’t do a dbs check just because it’s for the best- unnecessary dbs checking people can actually be illegal you know.
This wouldn’t meet the criteria for a dbs
Nor would the persons history of a caution necessarily bar them from being around children

Have you been dbs checked as you’re also there a lot?

Were you there just watching these people all the time for no reason, knowing this persons background and criminial record and who they’d contacted for advice and how it was being dealt with then?
You seem very invested

I'm guessing the OP aims there and is concerned, sounds like a pretty unique situation, maybe the nursery took advice and was told it want needed

ÐYAC works not aims

Also, a conviction showing on a DBS is not necessarily a bar to a role.

It has to be a relevant conviction.

You would only know for sure that this woman has not had a DBS if you are a member of staff.

To be honest, I think that a member of staff who shows such blatant disregard for the privacy and data protection laws as you have is actually a far worse person to have around kids than a mother who may or may not have made a single mistake in unknown circumstances.

You seem to know a lot about this person. Why are you so bothered?

If you are unhappy with the nursery then remove your child from it and stop getting so concerned about everyone else's issues.

And who told her it was a "parenting issue" And in what respect? No child has to attend nursery do they? I didn't think it was obligatory (can't think of right word) are you in the uk?

Yes I was dbs checked
I only just found out about the caution from something unrelated to the nursery so was then wondering should it have been done. You know when you just wonder about things no other motive than I was just thinking should a check have been done in those circumstances

Yes, UK
I heard her being told that it would be considered a parenting issue that she was preventing her child accessing early years education as it’s been proven to be beneficial and so she had to stay till the staff were trained and confident and that as she didn’t work it shouldn’t be an issue (she was told she could bring her baby with her as well)

Even if something had come up on a dbs check it doesn't mean the parent wouldn't have been allowed to stay.

I'm guessing that you work in this setting. If so, and you were concerned, you also have a duty of care to raise any safeguarding concerns you have. Otherwise, you too are being complicit if any wrongdoing happens.

I heard her being told that it would be considered a parenting issue that she was preventing her child accessing early years education as it’s been proven to be beneficial and so she had to stay till the staff were trained and confident and that as she didn’t work it shouldn’t be an issue

Who have you heard this nonsense from?

Oh, you heard her being told.
Why are you listening to what sound like confidential discussions?
If you work in nursery then how can you be so daft to think that a parent can not remove their child?

You realise that very, very few people are told that there would be an issue if they remove their child from nursery?

Therefore you are, if it’s true, describing a likely identifiable story. And if you work in that nursery and you can be identified then your job will be seriously on the line.

Who told her she had to have her child in nursery? That sort of conversation would be done privately and it is beyond a nursery's jurisdiction.

Also if you don’t work in the nursery and you are a parent then why are you concerned about the other parent rather than the nursery allowing people unsupervised access to children and having not a single clue about confidentiality?