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A dbs check should have been done ?

163 replies

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 18:16

Aibu?
Nursery setting and a parent had to stay with their child for approx 4 months each morning and then to go in each time to administer medication.
Surely given that it was a prolonged thing that they knew about the parent needed a dbs check. Was just in the room but took the child to the toilet etc when others in there and wasn’t always supervised
Should they have done a check (if it’s relevant there is a caution for violence/assault)

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LeahJack · 24/07/2018 22:07

OP, the only person you could possibly get this sort of information from reliably would be the police or ACRO. And it would be highly illegal for anybody who had access to reliable information to tell you because of the data protection act.

So you’re either listening to unreliable gossip, or are listening to someone who is breaking the law by passing information to you. Neither of these reflect very well on you tbh.

smallchanceofrain · 24/07/2018 22:15

I heard her being told that it would be considered a parenting issue that she was preventing her child accessing early years education as it’s been proven to be beneficial and so she had to stay.

Total nonsense. There is no statutory requirement for children to be in early years education. If someone never accesses early years education for their child you might not think they're doing the best for that child's development but it's their choice and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

If she attended every session for four months (bringing a baby with her?!) she sounds like she was dedicated to keeping her child in early years education.

flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 22:15

If you work in the nursery you're likely going to get sacked now. This is probably really identifiable. Not many sick children who's mother's HAVE to keep them in nursery about surely?

Be careful op.

PersianCatLady · 24/07/2018 22:16

Why are you avoiding answering the questions that you have been asked??

How do you know that a DBS check was not done?

How do you know for sure about this caution for assault??

You sound like a spiteful busybody with an axe to grind.

MaisyPops · 24/07/2018 22:20

This sounds like an easily identifiable situation and if you work in a nursery and the parent or anyone you know sees this then your job is on the line.

A parent in a setting as a parent doesn't require a DBS check.

Why are you so knowledgeable about this parent and the intricacies of her situation? You're very invested.

lapenguin · 24/07/2018 22:27

Yeah as far as I'm aware, your child doesn't have to be in any form of education until 4 years old... 5 if born at the end of the school year... So it wouldn't be a parenting issue for them not to be there and whoever is saying it is should be investigated

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 22:37

It was the setting manager who told her this. Within earshot of more than one member of staff, it wasn’t done privately she made it clear that removing the child from the setting was an issue and also that being late was an issue and that the child needs to be there on time on the scheduled days

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TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 22:42

It was spoken about a lot within the setting how the situation was to be handled. Like a pp poster has said though perhaps too much info I don’t want to out myself as yes it could cause me problems I just feel that things have not been handled well.
I was unsure about whether a dbs should have been carried out.
The info about the caution was given by another member of staff there who joined sometime after. Previously she volunteered for homestart and knew the family and passed on various things in conversations (which perhaps she shouldnt have)

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LML83 · 24/07/2018 22:43

As others have said early years is not compulsory so 'you' heard wrong.

Poor woman spending 4 months with baby at nursery seems to priorities nursery.

Do you think your child was at any risk? If not stop listening to gossip and move on.

PersianCatLady · 24/07/2018 22:43

You keep on with second / third hand gossip but you don't answer the question about how YOU KNOW this??

flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 22:44

The setting manager cannot force anyone to keep their child in early tears education.

Stop gossiping about parents with your colleagues. V unprofessional.

PersianCatLady · 24/07/2018 22:46

A caution is more common than you think, I don't believe that any body who has worked with parents at Homestart would even give it a second thought.

Why not admit that you have heard some gossip and you don't like the other mother so you are being spiteful and trying to find ways in which to cause trouble for her??

MaisyPops · 24/07/2018 22:47

So lots of people (you included) spend too much time engaged in unprofessional gossip.
More time on the job and less time gossiping and speculating would be my advice.

OlennasWimple · 24/07/2018 22:48

No, it's the other way around: nursery shouldn't have left the parent as the sole adult in the room. They should have essentially pretended that she wasn't there (except in a genuine emergency), and should have maintained their normal staffing levels at all times. I doubt that that would include leaving a room completely unattended, even for a couple of minutes.

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 22:49

Absolutely not the case
I was wondering should a dbs have been done. Obviously the general consensus here is not.

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flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 22:50

Of course you were op of course you were Hmm

PersianCatLady · 24/07/2018 22:51

I was wondering should a dbs have been done
Fucking hell, answer the question - how do YOU KNOW that one wasn't done?

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 22:51

The conversations took place after nursery hours we were told informal information sharing is permitted and important. The manager told all of us (stafff) that we were not to engage if the parents queried having to stay and to refer them back to her but not to speak with them aboutbit inside or especially outside of the setting

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TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 22:53

100% there wasn’t a dbs done on this parent

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MaisyPops · 24/07/2018 22:54

The conversations took place after nursery hours we were told informal information sharing is permitted and important
Informal information sharing is 'X happened last week with Y' not 'well when i was working or volunteering somewhere else and met them in anotjer setting this is the gossip and i heard they had a caution...'

We would be spoken to if we gossiped about parents in our staffroom the way you seem to have done

flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 22:54

I think you should tell us the name and location of the nursery so we can avoid it like the plague

HateIsNotGood · 24/07/2018 22:55

Exactly what Maisypops said - gossip, gossip, gossip. Disguised as 'professional'.

Blah, blah, blah all you want - but consider the consequences of your reports and whatever - taints an innocent child before they have a chance.

PersianCatLady · 24/07/2018 22:57

I can't decide if you are a complete and utter liar, you are stupid and think that what you are saying is true or if your nursery is the most managed in the country and has no idea about any of the data protection laws that we have in this country?

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 22:57

I did not actively engage as i had no prior knowledge of the family but I was present when these conversations took place so heard it all. I said once should we be taking about this and was told about how informal info sharing is allowed

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flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 22:59

Well you've informally shared it all over the internet and if I was the parent concerned id be removing my child and making sure nobody else used your nursery and you personally were dealt with for publicising my private information.