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AIBU?

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A dbs check should have been done ?

163 replies

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 18:16

Aibu?
Nursery setting and a parent had to stay with their child for approx 4 months each morning and then to go in each time to administer medication.
Surely given that it was a prolonged thing that they knew about the parent needed a dbs check. Was just in the room but took the child to the toilet etc when others in there and wasn’t always supervised
Should they have done a check (if it’s relevant there is a caution for violence/assault)

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TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 23:00

I thought that it was worrying a dbs hadn’t been done on this parent and should have but clearly it isn’t necessary to dbs check every adult I just wasn’t clear on the rules around this that was the main issue I posted.
The setting manager assured us this type of information sharing was permitted and it was all part of safeguarding that things were chatted about informally.

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Mindchilder · 24/07/2018 23:02

Did the manager explain confidentiality to you?

flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 23:03

I think it's worrying you work in a nursery and have NO IDEA about privacy.

PersianCatLady · 24/07/2018 23:05

Once again, a DBS would FILTER a single assault caution after six years so it may not even show on a DBS.

Why are you so interested in this any way?

What did this woman ever do to you?

To be honest, if I could work out who and where you were, I would make sure that you would lose your job over this.

Lucky for you, I can't but maybe your boss has already read this thread and today was your last day working in the nursery.

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 23:07

She told me that informal information sharing between professionals was allowed. That it is important
I do feel that it was wrong for the other member of staff to have disclosed what she did but it was as usual just informal chatting and information sharing I was told ‘this is how we get a full picture’

I think from the answers here that evidently a dbs wasn’t needed it was just bothering me.

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flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 23:09

But.... you've shared it all on the internet.

You do realise how wrong that is Right?

You do not disclose details about parents of the children at your nursery on the internet.

It sound like the whole nursery is terrible. No way would I want to send my child to a place like that. Nobody HAS to attend nursery and I would be playing hell with anyone who tried to force me to make my child attend.

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 23:10

according to the manager confidentiality can be broken if it’s safeguarding so these informal information sharing sessions are permitted

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flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 23:11

It's not safeguarding if it's gossip? Do you have genuine concerns that the child is in danger? If not, keep your mouth shut.

Again - don't share it on the internet.

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 23:12

As far as these parents were told
Early years education is very important and withdrawing it from a child who has already started is an issue.
Also they were told the 3 yr funding would be removed if attendance was low/child was off any longer so that issue could be circumnavigated if a parent attended otherwise if they list funding they’d have to pay full fees on the child’s return

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OlennasWimple · 24/07/2018 23:13

informal information sharing sessions are permitted

But that's not what happened, is it. Let's be honest - staff gossiped about a parent. There was no attempt to manage the information, or refer it for further consideration. You just shared juicy gossip about someone you didn't really like

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 23:14

No the manager was clear. It’s not gossip it’s ‘informal information sharing’ didn’t need to be formally recorded at all just verbal so that everyone is fully informed and so that she could keep an eye

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flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 23:14

Withdrawing a child who has already started is not and never will be an issue.

flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 23:15

Keep an eye on what???

Are you worried about the child's safety when with the mother?

OlennasWimple · 24/07/2018 23:16

Keep an eye?? Why??

Where is the evidence that she posed a danger to her own or another child?

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 23:18

She is very experienced with years of early years work behind her and goes to lots of training courses so I do trust what she says about informal sharing of information surely it’s important that these things are known to professionals?
That said she did take quite a hardline approach to the family involved but I assumed ther May be other things I was not aware of so at the time did not ask any more questions it’s just now that I wondere about the dbs, especially as the manager so hot on protocol safeguarding etc thatbone hadn’t been done
Probably because it didn’t need to be I’ve realised

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flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 23:19

She can't force anyone to attend nursery no matter how many courses she's been on.

Is the child in danger? Why are you avoiding this question?

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 23:20

Personally I was not worried at all. The only potential issues I know of were the ones I’d heard about I saw nothing of any concern myself to the contrary the parents and family seemed fine I would not have thought there were any issues had I not been told so much

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TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 23:21

No I did not personally believe the child to be in any danger at all

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flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 23:21

Had you not been told so much?

What so a caution = bad parent now?

flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 23:21

Stop gossiping then.

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 23:22

The manager is a childcare expert with many years experience in early years she had concerns so I found it odd to know there hadn’t been a dbs done that’s all but clearly it wasn’t required

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flamingofridays · 24/07/2018 23:24

Her concerns seem like bullshit frankly.

I would not send my child to a nursery like this whether the manager was a "childcare expert" or not. She sounds like a total knob.

TheWanderingWonderer · 24/07/2018 23:24

I was told all these things are just another piece of the puzzle that’s why it had to discussed more than is usual

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HateIsNotGood · 24/07/2018 23:25

The more you say the deeper the hole you are digging yourself into - you do realize that you and your nursery manager have just a tiny snapshot of life based primarily on your own tiny little experience.

"The parents were told" - dig on maid, keep on...

mangowango · 24/07/2018 23:25

If you go to a toddler group for example should all parents be DBS checked?

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