A dbs check should have been done ?

[TheWanderingWonderer]

Aibu?
Nursery setting and a parent had to stay with their child for approx 4 months each morning and then to go in each time to administer medication.
Surely given that it was a prolonged thing that they knew about the parent needed a dbs check. Was just in the room but took the child to the toilet etc when others in there and wasn’t always supervised
Should they have done a check (if it’s relevant there is a caution for violence/assault)

I saw because I was there as well. Like I say the unsupervised times were short and minimal as in staff changed over in garden or the parent involved took their child to the toilet and another child was in there/went in so it was v minimal
At the time I did not know about the caution it has come up through something else so I was just wondering if in those sort of situations parents would have needed a dbs check

Nothing against them at all but I just wondered if a check should have been done

Why were you there? Are you a member of staff or another parent? They wouldn't need a dbs check to go in and support their own child

Well a caution wouldn't necessarily show up on a dbs check anyway depending on how long ago it was. Nor would a caution for assault necessarily block and adult working with children (not that this adult is). Or do you expect the nursery not to allow parents of children onto the premises to see their own child?

I actually think Ofsted would say that someone who was there every session for 4 months should have been DBS checked even if supervised and a parent.

Check the Ofsted guidance. They don't.

We would DBS check in these circumstances- they have similar and regular access just like a volunteer. The question is whether you do a barred list check or not as well. Due to the supervision aspect would probably do a barred list check as well.

It was just something I wasn’t sure about I assumed a check should have been done. Got no problem with a parent supporting their child but was thinking of safety as thought all adults should have been checked

Even IF a DBS was performed and IF something did show up, it still not going to get a parent banned from a nursery looking after their own kids. The nursery would assess risk and make appropriate adjustment, if they felt the situation warranted it.

Hate to tell you, a convicted murderer works at my local hospital

Bombardier - Ofsted look at these things on a case by case basis rather than having an inflexible rule that doesn't account for all circumstances. Someone who spends 4 months in a nursery and has some unsupervised access to children would be checked even if they aren't technically an employee/volunteer.

Why didn't you raise your concerns to the nursery at the appropriate time?
How do you know they were alone with children unsupervised?
If their child is so ill they needed to remain with them at all times for 4 months don't you think they have enough on their plate without you stirring?
Do you think an incident occurred? If not why are you raising this now?

My last DBS took 8 weeks........I'm sure the 'sudden' illness of a child and one that needed medication would be more important than a DBS check. Quite frankly they aren't worth the paper they are written on anyway.

I'd be more bothered about staff leaving children unsupervised than a parent tending to their sick child tbh.

The parent should not be left unsupervised with other children ever
The nursery is at fault

The question shouldn’t be about the DBS check but why are the allowing even briefly a parent unsupervised access to other children.

@kaytee87 is spot on, if the children were left unattended by staff, I wouldn't be leaving my child there and I would report the nursery to the relevant authorities.
I wouldn't expect the parent with their child to be dbs checked.

Sounds like a case of staff being too familiar with the parent/just getting used to them being there and forgetting they need to actively supervise the parent if they go into children's toilets etc.

It does sound very much like the nursery didn’t do something they should have - they should have arranged training to administer the child’s medication rather than discriminate against them by requiring a parent to be present at all times.

Hang on

The nursery staff left children unsupervised by staff?
The nursery staff took over 4 months to get trained to give medication?
The only way this nursery could accommodate this child was by insisting on a parent staying?

This nursery sounds like it has way bigger problems than who gets a DBS check.

I see no need for a dbs check.

Brief moments unsupervised when other staff are nearby are not an issue.

Do you actually think there was ever a risk to your child? If so complain about that. Dbs is not relevant.

Not usually, but staff should ensure parent never left unsupervised with any other children.

A basic dbs wouldn't necessarily show a caution anyway and the parent wouldn't meet criteria for enhanced where you get the cautions, intel and so on

How do you know a dbs wasn't done?

Are you staff and if not DBS checked OP if you were also there every time am assuming you ARE staff?

The nursery may well have sought ofsted or LA advice.... And then didn't need the DBS check. Do you know if this is the case?

Okay a few things...

1. If the parents had to be there every day for four months, I'm assuming they couldn't work as well so wouldn't it make more sense for them to have taken the child out and just do little days here and there so staff could be trained?
2. Why did it take so long for staff to be trained...
3. What if the dbs had shown they were convicted of something? The child's health is a priority and the only way they could not allow the parent there is to also ban the child seeing as staff couldn't handle it
4. I would not be leaving my children at a nursery that left any child unattended for a second. Even going to the loo they should be accompanied. If staff are doing a swap over there should still be adequate amount of staff. Children can get into trouble in less than a millisecond