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This ridiculous mum situation

159 replies

causeimunderyourspell · 21/07/2018 10:22

So I'll try and keep this brief but there's quite a backstory!

I don't know how to describe my mum but she has always treated treated me and my siblings like her personal assistants basically. I was the last to move out and by that point, she was having me do all sorts like rolling all her cigarettes, sorting all of her general life admin, grooming her dogs, dying her hair, the list is endless. She was massively controlling, I at 21 years of age obviously liked going out socialising, seeing family, to the gym etc and she would give me the silent treatment every time. I'd go as far as to say she was emotionally abusive in some ways.

Cut to now, 8 years down the line. I'm married with 2 children (she didn't come to my wedding because she didn't want to leave her dogs), my brother is successful working full time, my sister has a successful career and owns her own home. We've all done really well for ourselves I'd say but we all live very busy lives as you can imagine! She's never been happy for any of us. She complained when my sister was saving her deposit, as she resented that she (mum) had debt, why couldn't my sister give her money?!

Some of you might remember my post a while back about her basically refusing to come to mine ever (I don't drive so had been catching a bus weekly with 2 babies for well over a year) to visit her grandchildren but complaining to everyone who would listen, about how she didn't see them enough. Well the end result of that was her refusing and not speaking to me for weeks. For clarity, she works 2 days a week and then 3 days a week on rotation, so plenty of spare time. No hobbies or other commitments.

She's recently decided to throw her toys out of the pram because I've not seen her for a month (we'd been given notice to quit and were frantically house viewing with every spare moment and then moving). My sister had been going through some difficulties with her marriage and my brother has just gone through a messy break up. All valid reasons for everyone to not be at her beck and call in my opinion.

My brother phoned me this morning saying basically shes decided she needs to be on her own now, she loves us but goodbye she's having nothing to do with any of us. So in her own head she's though fuck the lot of them, no ones been to see me, I'm done with them. Yet never speaks to any of us unless she wants something!

I don't think I am, but AIBU to think fine that's that? Part of me feels guilty but I'm sick of being manipulated by her like I have my whole life. I feel sorry for her that she has nothing in her life more interesting than slagging us all off to each other. But it's all her own doing and I'm just at the end of the line with all her petty, imagined drama.

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UpstartCrow · 21/07/2018 13:45

Well done! Any message you sent would have been shown round to all her friends/neighbours/hairdresser as evidence of how awful you are.

Have you heard of the Karpman Drama Triangle?
www.lynneforrest.com/articles/2008/06/the-faces-of-victim/

Your Mum is stuck in the cycle, but you don't have to be.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 21/07/2018 13:48

Do what you have to do to maintain your own wellbeing,your own family
Socially,culturally we are primed and raised with good daughter expectations
These expectations can cloud judgement to extent were one should say stop! They don’t
Because guilt,social expectations,hope the parent will change all come into play

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 21/07/2018 13:51

Pressed too soon
It’s a mn perennial that someone suggests the sassy yo!no nonsense text/email
I’d really recommend don’t do it,because once sent,it’s actually poor me ammo
Once received the sassy response can be shown,sent on to others as proof of your unkindness

AndBabyMakes3 · 21/07/2018 13:53

Well done OP. Hopefully she will not lay on the guilt through other family members now. If anyone does question your decision you can honestly say that it was your mothers decision to cut you out. I spent far too long covering up for my mother to other family members who did not know the extent of the abuse she put me through and assumed I was the horrible daughter for 'abandoning' her. Best thing I ever did was to take charge of my own life instead of allowing her to continue dictating it to her liking. The sense of freedom is immensely liberating!!

MissionItsPossible · 21/07/2018 13:56

May sound a bit immature but I've blocked and deleted my mums number now as I can't have this hanging over me time and time again as and when she chooses.

Not at all immature, the most appropriate reaction tbh Flowers Not saying this as a Croatian OP but it seems like you’re trying to justify or explain your reasons for blocking your abusive mother out of your life because you feel guilty when you have been told repeatedly to cut contact. Please don’t feel guilty, there’s no need Flowers

CoffeeOrSleep · 21/07/2018 14:12

I would message your brother and sister and say that you think you should all ignore her like you would a toddler having a tantrum, but that you would put good money on her having some sort of "health crisis" in the next week or so if you don't all jump, so you have to all feel bad about it...

Move on and enjoy the quiet!

Raven88 · 21/07/2018 14:20

I suspect She wants you to beg her not to be on her own and all apologise. I would leave her to it. Is see my mum when we have time and that could be once a week or once a month. We chat on the phone most nights but if we are both busy it's fine I have to almost force her to take help from me and DH.

Live your life and do what you want to do. When I read that I was just amazed that she behaves like that.

bionicnemonic · 21/07/2018 15:16

I've not read the full thread but I just wanted to caution that you speak to her to confirm your brothers view before you lessen contact - only because sometimes we misconstrue things and it might be best if she understands why people are not around

Gruffalina72 · 21/07/2018 15:27

Just because she gave birth to you, she does not have the right to treat you like this, and for you to have to put up with years of abuse and drama.

This. It's not callous or immature to cut ties with an abuser. It's extremely brave and sensible.

I'm actually inclined to recommend the Freedom Programme to you because you'd soon see how 'classic abuser' her behaviour is, including that nasty little stunt she pulled with your brother. The group I went to used to say it was just as applicable to parents, and it's pretty common - so they told me - for grown children of abusers to attend their courses. Www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

She may not be the worst case scenario for an abuser shown here, but she still is one: m.youtube.com/watch?v=d5NHBn5p9vY

Enidblyton1 · 21/07/2018 15:39

Sounds awful Flowers
Is your Father not around any more?

oldnewmummy · 21/07/2018 15:42

I’d recommend Toxic Parents by Susan Forward. Very readable. Pass it on to your siblings too.

Singlenotsingle · 21/07/2018 15:53

Just make sure you keep in touch with your dB and dsis,and on good terms. DM is a silly woman. You'd hope she had more to do in her life than harrassing you all.

EssentialHummus · 21/07/2018 15:58

Yeah, like a PP I sense a cancer scare/fainting spell coming on. Bitter experience.

hornbeam · 21/07/2018 17:52

She'll be threatening to cut you out of her will next - that's another tactic.

haribosmarties · 21/07/2018 17:56

YANBU dont get reeled into her drama just say 'fine' and disengage. She is a grown woman responsible for her own emotions and behaviour.

haribosmarties · 21/07/2018 17:56

and well done for blocking her number

SugarPlumLairy · 21/07/2018 17:58

Well done OP, wishing you peace and quiet away from her nasty drama.
Don't get sucked back in.

You DON'T need to confirm with her what your brother has to,d you. It's enough that you all know it fits her past behaviour/personality.

causeimunderyourspell · 21/07/2018 18:54

@Enidblyton1 no he left her about 9 years ago. He stayed with her for the kids and got out as soon as we had all finished school bless him. She treated him the same (like absolute shit) and he put up with it for us for 20 years

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causeimunderyourspell · 21/07/2018 18:55

@hornbeam she has nothing anyway. A shit load of debt, no pensions (aside from the recent auto enrolment pension scheme) and no funeral plan either so she's told me

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Roussette · 21/07/2018 19:04

Just leave her to it, she's made it clear what she's doing so just leave her alone and when she comes crawling back, complaining that you haven't contacted her, you can say 'I thought that's what you wanted'?

FWIW I have adult kids and I would be really looking to myself if they felt like this about me, it should not be like this and thank god you have allies in siblings. Otherwise you wouldjust start to doubt yourself, but you are all in agreement

perfectstorm · 22/07/2018 17:42

She's abusive. No ifs, buts or ands.

Sounds to me as though you all turned out as well as you did because your father stayed to buffer you from the worst of it. And it also sounds to me as if she's the sort of person who likes having kids because she feels it guarantees she has people around to love and like her - and it never crossed her mind that once they grew up, she needed to make at least a cursory effort not to be actively damaging to them to ensure continued love and contact!

I'm so sorry she's done this to you, and for so long. You and your siblings have done amazingly to build the good lives you describe. Don't let her sabotage.

Devilishpyjamas · 22/07/2018 17:51

Yep - remember she’s an adult and quite able to make choices. She’s made one, so leave her to crack on with it.

causeimunderyourspell · 22/07/2018 18:00

@perfectstorm that sums it up perfectly, nail on head!!

But of an update, my sister text her saying she should be ashamed of how she's behaved. Well my mums response was I'm not ashamed and have nothing to be shamed of, none of you make me a priority. She is not in the really world. Never once have we been her priority, she makes zero effort to see any of us.

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Tistheseason17 · 22/07/2018 18:05

She is quite the manipulator and controller!

Well done for stepping away. Grieve for the crappy relationship then move on. Her loss

myusernameisnotmyusername · 22/07/2018 18:11

Wow. She sounds like a challenge! I’d say give her the ‘space’ she wants and get on with your life. She’ll soon come running but don’t give in if it’s just because she wants something.

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