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To be utterly depressed at this article and comments it generated in the Daily Mail

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Dulra · 20/07/2018 10:13

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5972845/Irish-PM-mocked-saying-ban-British-planes-airspace.html

I apologise in advance because I am linking a daily mail article and I know a lot of mumsnetters hate the daily mail and all it represents but this article and its hateful comments has really upset me. The article is referring to comments made yesterday by the Irish Taoiseach in relation to Brexit. He said “You cannot have your cake and eat it. You can’t take back your waters and then expect to use other people’s sky”. It was an ill-advised comment and he shouldn’t have said it. But it is no secret that the Irish government are getting increasingly frustrated with the lack of progress on Brexit and the lack of a clear plan from the British government to negotiate with. His comment was in response to comments made in Britain that Irish fishermen could be banned from fishing in UK waters next to the Irish coast. The Daily Mail reported on it yesterday and continue to do today. What they said he said was that leo Varadkar had threatened to ban British flights over Irish airspace. Read quote above that is not what he said!
You can imagine the comments this generated mainly slagging off the Irish loads of potato famine references, leprechaun references, stupid irish, stupid Taoiseach, he’s not even Irish, where would Ireland be without Britain, the south should just join with the north and become a part of Britain again, Ireland is the begger state of the EU, Ireland would be better represented by a potato. I could go on and on and on.
I am just so sad that people think this and think it is ok to say these things. Fine Britain want to leave the EU but why the sudden hate against the Irish. Why is every other country that disagrees with brexit and is fed up with it suddenly a target for this hate. What hope has the Good Friday agreement got in this climate?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5972845/Irish-PM-mocked-saying-ban-British-planes-airspace.html

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PaddyF0dder · 21/07/2018 19:51

@Xenia

My apologies. I see you voted remain.

The rest of my post stands though! Platitudes are one thing. Reality is quite another.

keyboardkate · 21/07/2018 20:46

Some of us here really care about the ROI/NI/UK relationship. It has worked absolutely fine up to now.

But I am sorry to say that the numbers in Parliament for TM mean that the deal/no deal is predicated on the DUP in the end.

Is that representative of democracy when a rump in NI can decide everything to sustain the power of the incumbent PM and her party?

Newyorkhereicome · 21/07/2018 20:52

Sein Fein need to take their seats in parliament along with Paisley's suspension that could put the final nail in Brexit for once and for all

CoolCarrie · 21/07/2018 20:56

Leo is right though! The whole brexit thing is a shit storm

CoolCarrie · 21/07/2018 20:57

The north should join the south and tell the UK to feck off!

Franzipanny11 · 21/07/2018 21:40

Newyork - very valid point. They could be everyones’ saviours. And bugger off when the deed is done.

placemats · 22/07/2018 14:05

I agree with regard to Sinn Fein. However they will always counter argue that they are voted in because they don't take their seats in parliament and then swear allegiance to the Queen. Of course swearing allegiance to the Queen is never going to be dropped.

I think it's a time for pegs in the nose and getting on with the task. Everyone will know they don't mean it.

Help us Sinn Fein - you're our only hope!

Franzipanny11 · 22/07/2018 15:01

They really do have the ability to help but I can understand why they wouldn’t. Can only hope that the best outcome vs dignity prevails in their decision making.

Mydogmylife · 22/07/2018 15:11

Welcome to the world of any country other than England! Scotland and Wales suffer these ignorant comments by a vocal minority as well!

DrMantisToboggan · 22/07/2018 15:20

“The best outcome” for SF arguably isn’t to stop a hard Brexit though...

LaurieMarlow · 22/07/2018 15:50

I have no faith in either SF or the DUP to do what's best for NI.

Both groups of gobshites will put their own (often ridiculous) principles above the common good.

That's what's so depressing about this.

There are a number of factions who could use their power to avoid a catastrophic brexit - labour/SF being foremost among them. But they won't because they're clinging to some fucking ideal that makes no sense in the modern world.

If the DUP had a brain between them they'd realise how damaging a hard brexit will be to them. But they're too pig headed to take it on board and in the meantime they're drunk on their own power in Westminster.

Franzipanny11 · 22/07/2018 16:51

Oh god LaurieMarlow that’s a grim analysis.

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