To not understand why (and be against) “improved sizing”

[SchrodingersMeowth]

So, I don’t know if this is just in Primark or everywhere will be taking it on but I’m a bit shocked that the sizing for clothes is being re-marked. For example a 10-12 which was previously medium will now be small, 8-10 XS etc.

This feels like an excuse to ignore true sizing and doesn’t seem healthy! Tbh it reminds me of the people who try to push the “Marilyn monroe was a size 16 and perfectly healthy”. But she wasn’t was she, not a size 16 now anyway!!!

I feel like sizing is already generous and changing it to make people appear even smaller when they haven’t changed isn’t good for accountability for the fact that obesity is an ever growing crisis.

I don’t agree that my “new” size reflects my actual size and I’m sure this is going to be the same for many people.

I just don’t see what the point was in doing it!

I had to return some size 16 to Primark as too small, I’m a 14 and the Primark shorts I was wearing when I returned the size 16 were size 12! Their sizing is dreadful, so I’ve stopped shopping there.

Probably ASOS - they have tiny sizes like 4. It's really weird to see as they just sound wrong, but I would have needed those when I was younger.

Gap sizing is weird. They are the worst place I know for unpredictable sizing. Same order would contain an XS that was like 14/16 and an L in a different garment that was too small for a 12.

@Meowth (Great user name btw) what exactly IS the issue though? If you were a size 12 before but now you fit into a Primark size 10...so what? You could still be a 12/14 in numerous other shops. Would you feel as outraged if the new sizing made everyone wear a size bigger instead?

Not unreasonable.

No, don't #loveyourshape, #eatlessfattie

Iam Their sizing can be a bit awful, I generally don’t buy jeans as I find them uncomfy and have a suprapubic catheter so tend to buy comfy waisted stuff so usually have a fair amount of wiggle room and don’t complain too much about sizing but I know from previous experience that Primark sizes are a bit barmy anyway

Obviously I have more sympathy for you OP than I would for someone else in your situation because your weight loss isn't something you're being smug or virtuous about, it's because of your particular health situation. You may find that Primark eventually stop selling smaller sizes, but many other shops still will (often more expensive shops, but that's a whole other thread about the links between being thin and class/perceived class).

That being said, for every person that will be annoyed they can't buy a 4 or whatever in Primark anymore, there'll be someone who's had to put up with expensive specialised plus size clothing and can now shop in Primark. So it's swings and roundabouts really.

This is a total non problem

There are incredibly slim people to be seen everywhere

In my town anyway they appear to wear clothing and not hastily tied together flour sacks, but of cours everywhere is different

If posters genuinely feel that this is the first stage in eliminating clothes for the very slender (really?) then perhaps you should ask a slim person where out and about where they got their clobber from

Penny Will check out ASOS when I fall off the end of primark sizes, suspect I won’t be happy about the prices though (you get what you pay for clearly lol) .

TheGreat Lol loving your name too. I’d be less nervous in a bigger size tbh!

So, I mainly have sporty brands and am a size 10 throughout or less, i’m short and kind of narrow so I think this prevents me being in a bigger size anywhere else, although if the places exist I’d definitely give them a look!

I’m just nervous that it will be hard to buy clothes in the future if everywhere follows suit and tbh don’t think being labelled as XS is healthy at all when we totally know I’m not. Then if I get used to that size might also accidentally buy the wrong size from other places in the future.

I like things to stay the same size generally just pissed off it’s been changed for what seems like no good reason.

How about any size over size 10 is labelled fat, super fat and morbidly obese. That should make the fat shamers happy

Madge I’m NOT “very slender” which is where my issue is with this!

There’s plenty of sizes to reflect being bigger and barely any for the “smaller”! And I want to be able to buy cheap clothes too and Primark is the cheapest. We don’t have much money at all so it’s not as easy as just finding places that specifically cater to small sizes especially when I’m not even proper lower end of healthy!

@MadgeMidgerson - in all fairness I have problems buying clothes for my size.
GAP size 0 is pretty much too big for me, the waist just falls down on my hips. Not sure who they are trying to fool. Fortunately, their quality went so down in the recent years that I am no longer tempted to buy their jeans and River Island and Diesel are pretty decent. Still, some of Diesel smallest jeans available are a touch too big.
So yes, if 16 (well, soon to be 12 or 14 or M from what it looks like) is the average woman's size in the UK right now, there's a very good chance the choices for slim women will become more and more limited.

I also thought in Primark it was only changed on the basics and loungewear/sleepwear that were already in S/M/L before this and it's just that these categories have been tweaked slightly to make these clothes fit more similarly to the other Primark clothes that are 12/14/16 etc? So now a S(10-12) in a pyjama set will fit like a 10 or 12 top from the normal section, whereas it never really did before.

@Milfromhades

I'm not sure if you're joking but it did make me laugh.

Argumentative. Think it just bothers me because sizes are already jumped, as previously mentioned by another poster it goes “4-6” then “8-10”. And it’s a much more noticeable jump already than when I was buying day 14-16/16-18

Oh yes, shitloads of sizes for the bigger

go into any store that sells fashionable clothing and you’ll see racks and racks of size 20s I’m sure

have a go at finding a size 16 in Zara why don’t you, or even a 14?

Stores are always going to cater to the greatest demand and people on either end of the range will always have fewer choices. The labels don’t really matter since they aren’t consistent anyway.

Argumentative. It may just be the particular clothes ranges I have been looking at but it certainly seemed to be mostly everything. Didn’t know what to get as spent half the time hunting to see if stuff had a “new improved sizing” tag.

I look forward to this brave new world where anyone smaller than the old size twelve is compelled to go round in squirrel fur merkins because no store stocks their size

I agree that it should just be in inches like men have.

My god you’ve taken this so personally but yeah sorry I’ve seen plenty of size 22s and a lack of smaller sizes.

And sorry but since I can’t just take in more to be a bigger size (as I’m sure is probably quite common) then having a lack of sizes that reflect even healthy weights does seem more of a problem.

If you have money to shop in Zara etc then I’m sure you would be able to afford to shop in places that cater for bigger sizes. Can’t stop losing weight and can’t afford to shop elsewhere.

Why should inclusive sizing only be for the bigger and more financially able?

Hungry Would make so much more sense!

yes damn those wealthy fat people, making all the sizes be too big. Are you aware of how size/weight actually correlates to socioeconomic status? it might make for an interesting read for you.

there are plenty of shops which cater for the slim or as @ShrodingersMeowth has said, ‘the normal’ and they do so at a range of prices.

Sizing should be 4, 5, 6, 7... Etc

Or perhaps 4-5, 6-7, 7-8...

OR if we really must stick with what we have now: 4-6, 6-8, 8-10, 10-12, rather than 4-6, 8-10...

Sorry but I see a dietician very regularly so perhaps I’ve picked up on their using “normal” in regards to weight.

I’ll change to saying “healthy” would that make you feel better?

If/when I’ve said normal I mean as in BMI range.

Perhaps some .5 sizes? 10.5, 12.5 ...