To not understand why (and be against) “improved sizing”

[SchrodingersMeowth]

So, I don’t know if this is just in Primark or everywhere will be taking it on but I’m a bit shocked that the sizing for clothes is being re-marked. For example a 10-12 which was previously medium will now be small, 8-10 XS etc.

This feels like an excuse to ignore true sizing and doesn’t seem healthy! Tbh it reminds me of the people who try to push the “Marilyn monroe was a size 16 and perfectly healthy”. But she wasn’t was she, not a size 16 now anyway!!!

I feel like sizing is already generous and changing it to make people appear even smaller when they haven’t changed isn’t good for accountability for the fact that obesity is an ever growing crisis.

I don’t agree that my “new” size reflects my actual size and I’m sure this is going to be the same for many people.

I just don’t see what the point was in doing it!

It's ridiculous. I've just bought a size 8 in H&M. I'm 44 and used to be their 10.
I just choose according to what it looks like tbh.
Next are even worse, their 6's are more like a generous 10.

See I’ve found it to be the opposite! I generally fit an age 11-12/12-13 but up to age 15 hangs off me with thmy age 15 seeming closer to an adult 14!? I don’t understand that.

Meglet I used to have some next jeans that I totally admit were much larger than they said on the size. Always found the size comforting even though I knew I bloody well wasn’t anywhere near the size at the time lol.

Shucks. So if 8-10 is going to be XS, what's my size going to be? MDG for midget? I'm 6 or occasionally 4.

Sizing is crazy. A few years ago I was a 8-10. Now I am trying on size 6 and it is too big at times. My weight and measurements haven't changed

Clan. You’re now a 2xs...

I find it laughable that Primark are trumpeting that they are standardising sizes since their sizes vary so much within the store. I have clothes from there that are 10s and 16s. It's farcical

Only Mines has changed but I think that made me more aware of how off the previous sizing seemed. Never mind the new!!

"True sizing" ... sorry was that written in the first stones on the planet or something? It's all speculative 😂

the numbers attached to sizes are a bit arbitrary anyway, aren’t they

furthermore as has been pointed out we all have different body shapes and heights, I am often a size 12-14 and nothing near to fat, or chubby but someone else who wears a 10 might well be.

Maybe all sizes could be renamed after animals, as with grouping tables in primary schools- we could have alligators, crocodiles, Komodo dragons- ‘please could I try on this dress?’ ‘Of course madam - which size - you look like a Gila monster might do’

I get the feeling some of you lot would have your size carved on your headstones

‘Here lies Mabel, a TRUE size 8’

I had to buy a gap size 2 which is supposedly a UK 6 this morning. Traditional measurement wise I would always be a 10 (27inch waist). Can't even pick up cheap trousers in Tesco now as their size 8's are too big. It really is getting ridiculous. God knows where people who are the size that 6/8 was 20 years ago shop.

the numbers attached to sizes are a bit arbitrary anyway, aren’t they

Yes, they're arbitrary, but there must be some people falling off the bottom of the scale with the way clothes sizes have increased.

@SchrodingersMeowth - well, that's even more idiotic. I'm not a 2xs. I maybe extra small but I am certainly still pretty much visible, even from the side. Why can't I be simply XS, 8-10 S as before etc? Made more sense.

If you’re in the middle then I doubt there’s going to be many problems with it but if you’re nearing the lower end and normal sizes are being re-labelled as not the norm and tiny then what is there to stop them providing for these sizes down the line?

It’s not so much the numbers but the declaring what are usually regular healthy sizes as being off the bottom of the normal range.

Madge You seem to be missing the point.

Also noticing that people who are normal or smaller weight don’t seem to be allowed to moan about issues that affect them.

Actually didn’t expect that.

Soul My guess is the lower end of the kids section or Tailors :(

Primark bring in a lot of customers for having size 20+ clothes. I imagine for this reason they went for "let's call the biggest size xxl and work backwards", rather than fannying about trying to decide which sort of women are medium and which sort of women are small.

I usually wear a 2 in Gap. I found this out after a few size 4s had to be returned, but now I know it is no problem.
I get quite confused at European sizes.

I'm normally a size 8-10 but have to try everything on in Primark. Last time I was there I left with a dress in a size 12 and a top in a size 6-8!

I know this sounds unbelievable, but when I was around 7 months pregnant, I was able to buy a size 6 long-line vest from Primark that fit me right up to birth!? And still fits me now... 2 years later and after losing my baby weight. I'm a size 12 everywhere else! (10 in generous shops)

@SchrodingersMeowth I am really excited to hear what a normal weight is

Go one tell us, do

Argumentative I’ve noticed the higher end of the spectrum seem to be becoming their target audience from their Instagram. I just worry that everywhere is going to follow the new sizing.

It genuinely worries me because I know I will lose more weight and can’t stop that and if I’m already in “XS” even though I’m not quite even at the lower end of healthy Wtf am I going to do next year???

Sizing was deregulated in the 1980s, and shortly after there followed a free-for-all of vanity sizing (now freely admitted by the industry) which was based on encouraging sales via feel good factor p, and nothing whatsoever to do with the periodic revalorising of sizes based on population measurements.

I don't think it is particularly bad now. but it is curious that the sizes still 'mean' something, even though it's decades since he link to the actual measurements if the population was broken.

I an much the same size as I was in my early 20s, but with the wider waist. Then I was a 12, maybe 10 for some garments. I am now 6/8, but can be a size even ther side of that as the variability is so great.

And as far as moaning goes, you certainly can, but no one is obliged to humour or otherwise listen deferentially to your complaints

Madge Go along and google BMI, I’m sure you’ve heard of it before.