To feel sickened that this man is being referred to in this way (WARNING UPSETTING CONTENT)

[bigoldscaredycat]

This man raped a three month old baby boy to the point where the baby needed corrective surgery.

He is now in a women’s prison in Canada where he has beaten up a female inmate.

THIS is where self ID leads. Men like this being incarcerated with women and their crimes being counted as female.

torontosun.com/news/national/feds-deny-paying-for-convicted-pedophiles-implants

www.newwestrecord.ca/dangerous-offender-in-b-c-loses-appeal-for-day-or-full-parole-1.23279132

Go on, Mumsnet, delete me for deliberately misgendering a male baby rapist.

THIS.IS.A.MAN.

Perhaps this story will illustrate why feminists are so up in arms about self ID.

I would love to see even the staunchest anti-women transactivist tell me that this person is a woman and that they belong in a women’s prison.

Boo

Your echo chamber has left you deluded.

There is not a chance in hell that all the people on the planet are going to accept this whitewashed trans ideology.

For a start it goes against every since religious doctrine meaning the most marginalised in society are absolutely unable to just accept men as women.

The issue is that not enough people are offended yet, but trust me, they will be.
I spoke to a now ex friend last night who told me her new boyfriend was a ‘Male feminist’ and when I asked her if he believed men in dresses were women, she said ‘yes he’s very into trans rights’ I said it’s probably best we don’t continue this chat and she said she ‘doesn’t argue with him about things she knows nothing about’ so this Male has taught this female that he knows more about what ‘being a woman’ is, than she does.

Might work on passive, trained-to-roll-over women but trust me, it’s not going to work on many other demographics.

Ok Boo please tell me why you think this is a woman. In clear scientific words

The words "because he identifies as a woman" can not and will not be counted

A woman is an adult human female.

‘Male woman’ is an oxymoron

Like ‘gender identity’

The Sun's front page story today is about a pre-op transwoman prisoner moved to a woman's prison accused of assaulting four female prisoners: www.thesun.co.uk/news/6804433/transgender-lag-sexually-abused-four-female-prisoners-days-after-arriving-at-west-yorkshire-jail/

It includes the sentence "The alleged victim — an inmate with whom she had struck up a friendship — said the remand prisoner stood close to her and touched her arm while her erect penis was sticking out from the top of her trousers."

"HER ERECT PENIS"?!?!?!?!

Maybe boo this projection and you need help to address those issues.

I’m guessing you are under 30 but I can assure you that despite what you read on social media you cannot change sex.

You can go to the doctors for help in addressing the legacy left by your family and then you can also confirm with doctor re sex.

Good luck

Boo, you confuse sex and gender.
The world is not changing in the sense that women and children will be raped, beaten and murdered by men. This story proves this chilling fact.

Why do you care so much if we all think he's a man booboo? You're so sure of your own position so what's it matter to you what we think?

Keep up the good work, Boo. I reckon for every younger poster nodding along with you saying "too right, transwomen are women," there are three or four saying "hang on, when I politely pretended transwomen were women in order not to hurt vulnerable people's feelings, I never intended it to lead to consequences like this."

Nope over 30.

So none of you are talking about the victim still. And I’m the disgrace?

I don’t get the point of this post. Person does sick and horrible thing and ends up in prison. I don’t see how their gender is relevant.

To some of the later posts, aren’t more men in prison partially because they get harsher sentences than women for the same crime?

And more men are violent because of how we raise our children. Boys are taught be tough, fight and not show emotions other than anger. It’s no surprise that when they grow they still are only able to express themselves with anger and react violently.

This is male violence: was it recorded as such?

The perpetrator should not be in a womens prison. Their desire to be treated as a woman doesn't outweigh women prisoners’ safety and a single sex prison.

There will be a small minority of criminal men who do this to avoid mens prisons and / or access vulnerable women. Stats should be recorded and it should be studied by experts.

From the article:

"Adam Laboucan was 17 when he was handed an indeterminate prison sentence for sexually assaulting a three-month-old boy"

"Laboucan now identifies as female and has changed her name to Tara Desousa."

A man committed this crime. A man. Not a woman. A man, who since committing this crime, has transitioned into a transwoman.

Oh give over, you're all being offended for the sake of it. This specimen now identifies as a woman. That is their choice. Regardless of whether we agree with it or not, they have the right to make that decision... such is the law.

Man or woman - what they did was wrong and they are now in jail. Arguing about whether they are classed as male or female is not going to change what they have done. Nor does saying "but they are a man" justify their crime any more.

Jager Tara Desousa does not have female genitalia. Tara Desousa is a man.

Boo must be a troll. Or drunk. These are not rational views.

Why are posters respecting the wish of a rapist, of a baby, with a penis to be called she?

He is a male rapist.

The victim was a little boy. My heart breaks for him to the point I find it hard to think about. I hope to God he does not remember what was done to him by this monster.

I care that this man is being treated as a woman because it gives him access to more people who are smaller and weaker than him.

Daddy how can men get a harsher sentence than women for the same crime when the crime is rape. Women can’t rape, it’s impossible.

Boo

Exactly what discussion would you like us to have?

For a start a 3 month old has the anonymity not to have their names or face in the paper, secondly discussing the horrific injuries inflicted on this baby is not something anyone should have to do.

Unless you are blaming the victim which its starting to sound like then I can’t see what relevance the victim has to this conversation.

The issue is how we deal with Male violence, specifically when that Male has chosen to identify in a way which places both the crimes he committed in female crime stats and when he is expecting and OFFERED extended amounts of medical and social support to enter and remain in the private world of vulnerable women.

That is what is important here you GF

A male committed the crime. If he/ she now has female genitalia that now makes them a trans woman. Nothing we can do about that.

@Daddynosharing and you're totally cool with making that the problem of women.

I fucking despair of selfish, unthinking, entitled jelly heads like you.

Sex matters.

And, no, men should not be allowed to transition into women AFTER committing sexual or violent crimes - and then be held in a women's prison.

Because this sort of thing happens.

A similar thing has just happened in a prison in Yorkshire too.

Female prisons should be for females only.

I'm still waiting for your answer Boo

Can't you think of one?

Or have you gone whinging to twitter on how us nasty bitches are being transphobic?

Daddy

Actually that’s common MRA lies, women get far harsher sentences than men for the same crimes.

I can't stand posts like this, yes this person did a vile thing but using this one example to block rights for a group of people is just as bad as stopping campaign for minority ethnic rights because a black person did a vile thing, or stopping campaign for gay rights because a gay person did a vile thing.