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To feel sickened that this man is being referred to in this way (WARNING UPSETTING CONTENT)

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bigoldscaredycat · 18/07/2018 06:21

This man raped a three month old baby boy to the point where the baby needed corrective surgery.

He is now in a women’s prison in Canada where he has beaten up a female inmate.

THIS is where self ID leads. Men like this being incarcerated with women and their crimes being counted as female.

torontosun.com/news/national/feds-deny-paying-for-convicted-pedophiles-implants

www.newwestrecord.ca/dangerous-offender-in-b-c-loses-appeal-for-day-or-full-parole-1.23279132

Go on, Mumsnet, delete me for deliberately misgendering a male baby rapist.

THIS.IS.A.MAN.

Perhaps this story will illustrate why feminists are so up in arms about self ID.

I would love to see even the staunchest anti-women transactivist tell me that this person is a woman and that they belong in a women’s prison.

OP posts:
Gaspodethetalkingdog · 18/07/2018 07:57

If there was the death penalty for this sort of crime this would not be happening

busyboysmum · 18/07/2018 07:57

This is horrific and just goes to show what we've all been saying all along.

You cannot change your biological sex. Males should not be housed in a female prison.

McTufty · 18/07/2018 07:57

Trans women are not literally women but I do believe in most circumstances it is humane to treat them as women.

However this has to be balanced against the rights of others. Sometimes this is difficult and finely balanced. In this case it isn’t. If you have a penis and use it to rape a woman, let alone a baby, your gender identity is not the fucking priority and you have no business being anywhere near a women’s prison.

Hangingaroundtheportal · 18/07/2018 07:58

The Police can profile correctly. The records WILL NOT state that this person is female. It will show that they are transgender.

The media still refer to these people as women though, which is why you get ridiculous sentences in the paper like 'HER erect penis was sticking up over her trousers'.

Hangingaroundtheportal · 18/07/2018 07:59

And bore off with the 'women do evil stuff as well you know'.

That may be. But the person in the OPs story is not one of those women. He. Is. A. Man.

TheBiologicalWoman · 18/07/2018 08:00

McTufty - we gave an inch, trans activists (men) took a mile.

Sleepyslops · 18/07/2018 08:00

The media still refer to these people as women though, which is why you get ridiculous sentences in the paper like 'HER erect penis was sticking up over her trousers'.

That's true... but they have to do that. They can't just say "him". We all know the truth from that sentence though.

smileandwave12 · 18/07/2018 08:01

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pinkstinks · 18/07/2018 08:01

It’s like this buzzfeed re Kris and Bruce. Whitewashed and factually inaccurate. Erasing a whole history and incorrect.

www.buzzfeed.com/elliewoodward/wild-facts-about-kardashian-relationships?utm_term=.xkQomgQxx#.nay5XbANN

LetticeFortescue · 18/07/2018 08:02

Boo boo - rape is always a male crime. A man with a penis can tell the world he is a woman after he has committed the act of rape but he is not - he is a man with gender dysphoria.
You don't much like women do you?

Candyflip · 18/07/2018 08:02

boo where are you from that you keep referring to the perp?

TheGoldenWolfFleece · 18/07/2018 08:03

Personally i couldn't give a shit if men want to transition while in prison. What i object to is them then being transferred to female prisons and the media referring to them as women. I wouldnt care if they referred to them as transwomen but portraying their crimes in the media as being committed by women is a bloody insult. Gaslighting the public.

IHATEPeppaPig · 18/07/2018 08:04

@Booboobooboo84 you can call us bitches all you like, it doesn't change the fact that this is a violent male offender.

You are so utterly offensive in your posts I really hope that you are just being a GF, otherwise I despair.

Bowlofbabelfish · 18/07/2018 08:05

But it’s not a lie. They are a woman. We can not agree on that. I’m fine with that. But the world is changing as it does. Society is changing as it does. And soon your view will die out. And it will become widely accepted that people can be born with the wrong gender and that they have the right to change that gender.

booboo do you believe humans can change sex? Not gender, sex. Can humans change sex?

acatcalledjohn · 18/07/2018 08:05

Whilst more violent crimes are committed by men, women are just as capable.

ODFOD

If they were just as capable then the stats would be much more equal. However, the stats are along the lines of >90% male.

Call me crazy, but that very stat tells you that women are not as capable.

It's kind of like saying that we are just as likely to have a devastating tornado in the UK as, say, the US. It's bollocks.

Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 18/07/2018 08:07

I've said a ton of times on here that there should be certain exceptions such as prisons and refuges, but there should be facilities where transwomen should be catered for. My point is that people will use this to stop the gender recognition act (which I support) as a whole.

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Bowlofbabelfish · 18/07/2018 08:09

booboo

Do you believe humans can change sex?

CantankerousCamel · 18/07/2018 08:10

I think boo would love a long conversation about the effects of rape on babies.

Soub

Just another way to say ‘I blame the mother’ isn’t it,

RunMummyRun68 · 18/07/2018 08:10

I agree op

It's MALE

Vile.... no woman has ever used her penis to rape a baby. Call it what it is.

Why sugar coat it??

WomanInBoots · 18/07/2018 08:10

The only way to help potential victims of violence is to address the causes if violence. "Not talking about the victim" is a red herring. The little child in this case will hopefully be being cared for, what's to talk about? Should the baby have been less provocative? Was his skirt too short? Was he drunk? Or maybe it's his mother's fault? That would work for the rhetoric wouldn't it?

Violence is most often male. The reasons for this are much more complex than "men are bad" and need to be discussed without howls of "Not all men" from the gallery. It matters that this person was born male and has decided to try to be female and the consequences of society accepting that need to be observed and discussed, again "Not all transpeople" yes, understood. It doesn't change the discussion much. It matters because it is part of the picture of understanding the crime, the violence, and working out a strategy as a society to help prevent future violence.

Whether those discussions can be had and actually have any outcome in a mysogynostic and patriarchal society in doubtful in my view but still. Worth a try.

Candyflip · 18/07/2018 08:11

The GRA is already in place in the U.K. Many people here want to stop self-id like Canada where Tara Desousa gets to chop of their cock and get housed in a women’s prison. And then attack vulnerable women in that prison. It’s bollocks isn’t it Skaross ?

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/07/2018 08:11

And women are not smaller and weaker than men. That’s just what we are raised to believe

And now the gaslighting is complete. What an idiotic thing to say. Men are physically stronger pound for pound than women. This is why:

  • women are designed to have more body fat than men.
  • instead of body fat men grow a larger and denser muscular skeletal structure. Quite literally they have wider shoulders, larger limbs, feet, hands etc all of which are damaged/broken far less easily than that of females. All great for kicking, punching, killing, maiming, raping. Do I need to go on.
  • the average male weighs over 2 stone more than the average female.
  • the average height of adult males is taller than that of females by 6 inches.
  • men have daily, not monthly hormonal fluctuations and don’t expend energy through menstruation or growing babies.

But hey, you go ahead ignoring biological reality. Ffs. There is no arguing with stupid.

flippyfloppyflower · 18/07/2018 08:12

Booboobooboo84 if you can call me a bitch to my face can I call you a deranged, illogical, ill-educated idiot who, because of an obvious lack of education, should be banned from chat forums. At least I said it to your face.

Another point - did you seriously call the police about an internet argument? Oh lordy - now I have heard everything.