Has Trump Turned Traitor? Trump thread continued.

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The Trump-Putin Summit in Helsinki, coming so soon after Trump’s ally-crumbling display in Britain and at the EU, is still sinking in. Let’s just say: he’s in all kinds of shit. All the kompromat.

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www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3295445-Our-list-of-allies-grows-thin-Our-list-of-enemies-grows-long-Trump-thread-continued

Just watched the Presser. For once the press corps were working as a team. If SHS didn't answer a question, and she cut them off and moved on, the next Reporter would say 'following on from the previous question' and rephrase it differently but ask it again.

She scuttled off pretty quick

FINALLY, Roussette - hope it's not too little, too late.

More subtle ways in which The Queen threw shade at Trump.
You thought it was only the brooches?

Breaking news from @PeteWilliamsNBC. Judge Ellis will delay the start of Manafort’s trial for 8 days. As @mitchellreports & I discussed this morning, the Judge wants to make sure Manafort has had enough time to prepare so there are no gounds for appeal if there is a conviction.

https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1021473580989775873

Thanks Perking. Hmmm

@kylegriffin1
Sarah Sanders says that the White House is looking into revoking the security clearances of John Brennan, James Comey, Jim Clapper, Michael Hayden, Susan Rice and Andrew McCabe. Sanders says it's because these officials have allegedly made "baseless charges" against Trump.
mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1021467492009631745

NEW: Press Sec. Sanders says Pres. Trump “looking to take away” security clearances of high-profile Obama era officials and Trump critics:

• Former CIA Dir. Brennan
• Former FBI Dir. Comey
• Former DNI Clapper
• Former NSA Dir. Hayden
• Former National Security Adviser Rice

twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1021475017605963776/video/1

twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1021475017605963776

Snap mimi

Andrea Mitchell
@mitchellreports
Context for security clearances: All former CIA (and NSA / FBI / DNI) Directors hold a security clearance since they might need to be consulted on important matters and so they can review their former files
mobile.twitter.com/mitchellreports/status/1021469148042485760

You know what they say about great minds Gump

Sneerah, maintaining form, rewriting history lie by lie:
@AshleyRParker
In response to a question from @PhilipRucker just now, @PressSec says Trump was only calling his campaign colluding with Russia "a big hoax" --- not the notion that Russia interfered in the 2016 elections. BUT... that's not what this tweet says.
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
So President Obama knew about Russia before the Election. Why didn’t he do something about it? Why didn’t he tell our campaign? Because it is all a big hoax, that’s why, and he thought Crooked Hillary was going to win!!!

mobile.twitter.com/AshleyRParker/status/1021466723898281987

Kyle Cheney
Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
Per @joshgerstein, the five names of those receiving immunity for the Manafort trial have been released.

None of them are Tony Podesta.
mobile.twitter.com/CantLetItbe/status/1021471172708323329/photo/1

'Risks pile up for Trump as Manafort heads to trial'

www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/07/22/trump-manafort-trial-mueller-russia-probe-735084?__twitter_impression=true

'Manafort trial postponed to July 31

Updated: 3:28 p.m.: Paul Manafort’s trial has been postponed a week to July 31.'

'U.S. District Court Judge T.S. Ellis III agreed to a weeklong delay but rejected Manafort’s larger request to delay the trial until later this fall, after a separate case goes to trial in Washington, D.C.

Potential jurors will still gather starting Tuesday, when the judge will brief them on the particulars of the case.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/07/23/mueller-witnesses-immunity-735966

In fact, overall support of Trump could actually go down while the percentage of Republicans who support him goes up.

(Ie lots of people cease being Republicans, leaving only those who support Trump.)

From the what Silver was saying, I think the figures he was looking at also included an element for how much people supported Trump – you know, those surveys with "Rank from 1 to 5, where 1 is Strongly Agree, 5 is Strongly Disagree."

So if the media just take a single, headline score, the reader can't distinguish between
(scenario a) equal numbers of people scoring Trump 1 and 5
and
(scenario b) many people score Trump 4, and a much smaller number score him 1.

But these will pan out differently in an election, where each person has one equal vote.

Not like this WH to be inaccurate. Standards must be falling. Tut, tut.
(Applies to Comey, too, apparently)
@kyledcheney
McCabe spokeswoman points out that his clearance ended months ago ->
Melissa Schwartz
@MSchwartz3
Andrew McCabe's security clearance was deactivated when he was terminated, according to what we were told was FBI policy. You would think the White House would check with the FBI before trying to throw shiny objects to the press corps... (link: twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/1021466704042479616 twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly…
mobile.twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1021474634066288640

(Applies to Comey, too, apparently)

Apparently it applies to Comey two

Ie lots of people cease being Republicans, leaving only those who support Trump
That's how I take it Perking, it's a high percentage of a smaller group, because repugs who have had enough.of T. have left the party. And your comment about the degree of support makes sense.

So, wait, what?

A list of 5 names has just been released, of witnesses in the trial of Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort?

And the White House responds by putting out a list of 5 names, of Trump critics, attached to some not-actually-real thing regarding security clearance (which vaguely hints at them not being OK around national security)?

Mm-hmm.

It happens that another Nate sSilver tweet caught my eye today:
@ NateSilver538
Jul 18
One of the essential strategies for triaging your news diet in the Trump Era is not to pay much attention to things that the White House is merely "considering". Some of them will happen but most won't, and they're often distractions from things that are actually happening.

That Nate Silver tweet bears much thinking about.

“I knew I was becoming the story too often. A spokesman shouldn’t be defending themselves,” says former White House press secretary Sean Spicer.

@seanspicer |#newsnight https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1021514510660591616/video/1

I'm getting the Nate Silver point now, thanks Perking and mimi. I think i intuitively got that but was easily confused when it got mathematical.

Newsnight lowered itself to give Sean Spicer airtime to plug his book himself? Fuxache.

I couldn't bear to watch it

More from Nate Silver:
twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1021500361322975232

@ NateSilver538
2h2 hours ago
Basically, the headlines about Trump approval being super high among Republicans imply there are a core group of voters who never desert Trump. But that isn't necessarily the case. Party identification is fluid. Trump approvers will join the party; disapprovers will leave.

@ NateSilver538
2h2 hours ago
You could fairly easily have a situation as in this (hypothetical!) example, wherein Trump's approval rating is say 88% among current Republicans but only 73% among voters who identified as Republican in 2016.
[graphic of example showing Trump-fans joining the Rep party after 2016, while pre-2016 Republicans leave the party]

Says talking head to a talking head ... I think this can be translated to “privileges should be revoked for anyone we perceive to be a threat.” It is obvious who he is targeting here.

Fox News @FoxNews
11m11 minutes ago
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Senator @RandPaul: "I don't think that ex-CIA agents of any stripe who are now talking heads should continue to get classified information. I think it's wrong." #TheStory fxn.ws/2LssOBb

Paid a little visit to Trump Tower today and put down a small MN curse.

My DS gleefully pointed this sign out to me (Central Park).

He is well trained.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/23/trump-plays-dangerous-game-with-anti-iran-twitter-rant