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Has Trump Turned Traitor? Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 17/07/2018 11:24

The Trump-Putin Summit in Helsinki, coming so soon after Trump’s ally-crumbling display in Britain and at the EU, is still sinking in. Let’s just say: he’s in all kinds of shit. All the kompromat.

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www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3295445-Our-list-of-allies-grows-thin-Our-list-of-enemies-grows-long-Trump-thread-continued

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lionheart · 24/07/2018 01:57

Benjamin Wittes

Verified account

@benjaminwittes

I just texted @Comey asking whether he even has a security clearance to revoke.

“Nope,” he responded. There’s nothing for POTUS to revoke. Comey says he was “read out” when he left government as per normal practice. 1/2

He even recently declined a temporary clearance from the IG to read the classified annex to the IG’s recent report. He didn’t want to see any classified material lest the president accuse him of leaking it. 2/2

ohmymimi · 24/07/2018 07:42

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/the-cohen-vs-trump-battle-ratchets-up/amp#click=t.co/Ob2g1hQ2xS" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/the-cohen-vs-trump-battle-ratchets-up/amp#click=t.co/Ob2g1hQ2xS

ohmymimi · 24/07/2018 07:46

a small MN curse lion Grin

ohmymimi · 24/07/2018 07:52

@MichaelBochenek
70 children under age 1 forcibly separated from their parents at the border have been summoned to immigration court, on their own, without court-appointed lawyers.

Even children who are older do not always know what threats their families faced in their home countries.
Elisabeth Rosenthal
@RosenthalHealth
We at @khnews got the numbers of babies under 1 who are going to court for immigration deportation hearings. Not only do they not understand English, they are not old enough to understand any language. Makes no sense (link: khn.org/news/from-crib-to-court-trump-administration-summons-immigrant-infants/) khn.org/news/from-crib…

mobile.twitter.com/MichaelBochenek/status/1021421187925270529

@washingtonpost

The number of parents potentially deported without their children during the “zero tolerance” border crackdown could be far larger than previously acknowledged
www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/government-signals-463-parents-of-migrant-children-may-have-been-deported/2018/07/23/31b522f8-8ed5-11e8-9b0d-749fb254bc3d_story.html?utm_term=.f36d9b94715b
mobile.twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1021600378771697664

TheClaws · 24/07/2018 08:18

They are all current, or previous, Fox News contributors. Let that one sink in. If this actually happens, we would have a Head of Propaganda, not a Press Secretary. They would still call the position PressSec, but it won’t be. I’m not sure we don’t have a Head of Propaganda now, really.

POLITICO @politico
6h6 hours ago
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There already are a handful of people on the White House’s shortlist to replace Sarah Huckabee Sanders, should she leave. Almost all of the have one thing in common. Can you guess what it is?

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AsAProfessionalFekko · 24/07/2018 08:19

Ummmmmm. They are all dreadful story tellers and have long noses?

ohmymimi · 24/07/2018 08:29

What a way to start your day, here 's Rep. Jason 'I'll touch you with my buttocks' Spencer:
m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=4k4pMTsa1Kw

ohmymimi · 24/07/2018 08:39

Guilfoyle turned down the job when Spicey flounced, didn't she?
I thought Shah had been reported as actively eyeing the exit door, like Sneerah
'At the top of the list is Heather Nauert, the current State Department spokeswoman and former Fox News host. Nauert has impressed White House aides with her steady performances in Foggy Bottom. Multiple people close to the White House pointed out that Nauert remained in Trump’s good graces even when the president soured on former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

Nauert’s Fox News pedigree, paired with her close relationship with Trump and her ability to stay on message and remain calm under pressure, makes her a “no-brainer” for the job, according to one person close to the White House. Nauert, who did not respond to a request for comment, has told associates that she’s unsure whether she would want the job, but people who know her believe she’d take it if asked.

Other possibilities include Bill Hemmer, a Fox News reporter; Kimberly Guilfoyle, a former Fox News host who recently left the network to join a pro-Trump outside group; Treasury Department spokesman Tony Sayegh, who worked closely with the White House on its overhaul of the tax code and used to be a Fox News contributor; and White House deputy press secretary Raj Shah.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/07/23/sarah-sanders-white-house-aides-736247

TheClaws · 24/07/2018 10:34

Are we all aware, too, that Kimberly Guilfoyle (who has recently resigned from Fox) is Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend? 🤮

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BolleauxtoBankers · 24/07/2018 11:00

AsAProfessionalFekko - you just need a one word answer, instead of "They are all dreadful story tellers and have long noses?" It's: Liars. Grin Angry

ohmymimi · 24/07/2018 11:07

Maddow, Manafort, money. Court update, with dramatic reading:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ewbf0mw0t2Q&feature=youtu.be

ohmymimi · 24/07/2018 11:25

Chris Hayes on 'All the President's Mess':
m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=D-T-tLCdjm4

lionheart · 24/07/2018 11:55

It was a MN curse, ohmy, so quite powerful because this site attracts a bunch of potty mouthed vipers. Smile

lionheart · 24/07/2018 11:57

Bringing in the reinforcements:

Julia Davis

@JuliaDavisNews
11h11 hours ago

▪️July 19th— Apropos of nothing, Russian state TV brings up Rand Paul; Russian Ambo to the U.S. talks about having him over for lunch.
▪️Same day, Rand Paul echoes Tucker Carlson: "The Cold War is over."
▪️Today, Rand sits down with Trump about revoking critics' clearances.

lionheart · 24/07/2018 12:08

www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/nbc-wsj-poll-support-roe-v-wade-hits-new-high-n893806

'A majority of Republicans — 52 percent — say the Supreme Court decision should not be overturned.'

PerkingFaintly · 24/07/2018 12:31

Bloody hell, those allegations of sexual assault by ICE staff. My bolding. Shock

Migrant women describe sexual assault in ICE detention facilities: report
thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/397382-migrant-women-describe-being-sexually-assaulted-in-ice#

“He grabbed my breasts … He put his hands in my pants and he touched my private parts,” Maria told the publication. “He touched me again inside the van, and my hands were tied. And he started masturbating.”

Another woman seeking asylum, identified as “E.D.,” claimed she was sexually assaulted by a male guard while she and her 3-year-old son were being held in a family detention center in Pennsylvania.

“I didn’t know how to refuse because he told me that I was going to be deported,” the 19-year-old woman said to the publication. “I was at a jail and he was a migration officer. It’s like they order you to do something and you have to do it.”

According to data obtained by the publication from the Department of Homeland Security, Maria and E.D. are just a few out of thousands of migrants who claim to have been sexually abused while in ICE custody.

Over 1,300 claims of sexual abuse against detainees have been filed about ICE between 2013 to 2017, according to the Times. Watchdog organizations estimate the reported number is significantly lower than the actual number of detainees sexually abused, the publication said.

ohmymimi · 24/07/2018 12:49

Finally, the lowdown on the one to one:

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