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Theresa may's awful awful red dress

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BananaMilkshake13 · 13/07/2018 06:39

AIBU?
I think she looked absolutely ridiculous in that red dress when she greeted Trump at Blenheim palace.

She looked out of place and was perhaps trying to compete with melania trump...obviously a formal event but that dress was a bad choice and didn't suit her AT ALL.
The slit....🙈

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coolncalm · 13/07/2018 09:51

Trump's 'style' however - ERROR! Duke of Weselton wig, badly fitted suit, general air of shoddiness. I'd like to see him pulled apart in the fashion pages.
Trump gets far worse than anyone i've ever known, EVERTHING about Trump is torn apart. I don't like him but i think to attack someone so atrociously for his hair, skin etc is appalling.

RhubarbandGin · 13/07/2018 09:52

YABVU and a complete twat.

LittleLionMansMummy · 13/07/2018 09:54

Trump gets far worse than anyone i've ever known, EVERTHING about Trump is torn apart. I don't like him but i think to attack someone so atrociously for his hair, skin etc is appalling

Agreed. There's plenty of material to focus on after all. Such as separating children from their parents and locking them in cages.

JessyJames · 13/07/2018 09:55

I'm not her greatest fan, but I thought the dress was great. Much better than Melania's bridesmaid dress.
I think it was perfect for the occasion.

Honeyroar · 13/07/2018 09:57

I thought she looked fine. It was a "shock" to see her in more formal evening wear, but so what.

I was more bothered to see Trump being given such a princely welcome to the UK personally.

Motheroffourdragons · 13/07/2018 09:57

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Alltheprettyseahorses · 13/07/2018 09:58

Trump gets far worse than anyone i've ever known

As long as you don't count any woman in the public eye.

stressedoutpa · 13/07/2018 09:59

Her body reveals that she is someone who is badly nourished, under-exercised and doesn't sleep properly.

FFS!

I very much doubt that she has a lot of time to exercise, sleep or cook from scratch. She's running the bloody country. She is the epitomy of 'not having it all'.

I suppose you think she is failing because she doesn't have a perfect figure and family of 10.

I don't like the Tories but I do admire her tenacity. She is doing one of the hardest jobs in the country and she's as solid as a rock. I really admire her style and think she looked great in that dress.

LittleLionMansMummy · 13/07/2018 10:00

I expect she would prefer people commenting on whether she looked good or not rather than what a mess she is making of the job of governing the country.

I expect she would. And that's exactly why we shouldn't.

MsJinglyJones · 13/07/2018 10:01

Well I started a thread saying I loved her look, so am as guilty as anyone of remarking on her clothes.

But I think clothes do matter, just like rhetoric, bearing and personal hygiene matter for a politician or leader. And also I thing we do care about, notice and comment on what men wear. Boris and Corbyn have both been torn to shreds over their style choices. Barack Obama and David Miliband have been praised for their exquisite style.

If Trump had turned up in his beach shorts and a string vest, no one would have failed to remark on it because he's a man and only his politics matter. What bollocks.

There is a sexist issue in relation to clothes, and it's the cultural expectation that men will always wear a sober suit for formal occasions, while women will dress up in something more interesting. I would prefer it if men weren't so restricted by expectations and could glam it up in any colour and more interesting styles as well. Everything should be open to all. And there are some men who do embrace that, Grayson Perry and Eddie Izzard will do dresses, while others do stick to the more traditionally male wardrobe but add a lot of detail and style.

I will happily discuss anyone's style, male or female, but Theresa May is a well-known fashion lover and often has really interesting outfits to discuss.

What I think is really sexist is that caring about clothes is seen as something trivial and female. That's actually a total illusion. Try to get a man into something he doesn't want to wear - men really do care about clothes and express themselves through clothes, it's just that they're traditionally expected and raised to be to be more conservative and restrained.

To be clothes and fashion are an aspect of design, and matter in the same way as other design does – architecture, interior design, font design, city planning. They make a big difference to our lives and do affect things.

Boris is a classic example of how a particular look (unkempt and clownish in his case) contributes to how you are seen and how seriously you are taken. It is far from being a thing that only relates to women.

Seasawride · 13/07/2018 10:02

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She’s not there for her style she’s a pm. So it’s completely inappropriate to comment on line about her dress sense.

If she was a fashion model fine. She’s not she’s doing a very hard and serious job.

limon · 13/07/2018 10:03

Wtf.

I am more bothered by her awful, awful attitude and policies.

Motheroffourdragons · 13/07/2018 10:08

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coolncalm · 13/07/2018 10:08

So to sum it all up, we can only give praise to what women wear, it's fine to gush about how wonderful someone looks, but we must never ever say what we sometimes might think, , (that they look bloody awful), because to do so is being mysogynist and disloyal to women. To make it truly fair then nothing at all should ever be said about someone's appearance. It's wrong to criticise and it's wrong to praise.

It's all irrelevant, let's be like robots. Grin

Opheliasgoldenwine · 13/07/2018 10:08

Oh fgs. I don't like the woman but leave her alone about what she's wearing. She may have felt really lovely in it, imagine if she saw this thread Sad If you're going to criticise her for something, let it be her policies.

FeistyOldBat · 13/07/2018 10:08

The dress is fine. What isn't fine, is the way she's looking at Donald Trump in one of the photographs on this page. Scroll down to More on this story, just below the comments section, it's the photograph on the far right.

She's looking at him, on her right, doe-eyed, as if she's besotted with him. It's not the first time she's been photographed looking at him wearing that expression. She disgusts me, she has no apparent sense of dignity or self-respect, just one of several reasons I so dislike her.

Seasawride · 13/07/2018 10:11

I just feel uncomfortable seeing other women or men picking someone to pieces over appearance or clothes etc when they are trying to do a serious job. It’s usually women being picked apart too.

I think I it’s a bit off to start an internet thread saying someone looks awful a bit cruel and unnecessary to be honest.

Arthuritis · 13/07/2018 10:12

I didn't particularly like her dress but more to the point there seems something odd about her posture and the way that she carries herself and that, to me, affects her ability to do her job. Watching her makes me feel very uncomfortable. She seems self concious and as if she is trying to make herself disappear. Surely we need someone with more stature who pushes our interests forward. Watch how she stands back and gives way to Trump almost as though she is in awe of him.

What she wears does not bother me. It is her apparent lack of confidence that does. Is this apparent in her negotiations on behalf of our country?

IrianOfW · 13/07/2018 10:13

I thought it was OK.

But really why is it important? She's got a few other things to concern herself with atm.

hackmum · 13/07/2018 10:13

I thought the dress was fine. As for:

"Her body reveals that she is someone who is badly nourished, under-exercised and doesn't sleep properly."

She is a woman in her 60s with Type 1 diabetes. It's amazing that she does such a demanding job. I can't stand her politics but comments like these seem unnecessarily personal.

Motheroffourdragons · 13/07/2018 10:15

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Juells · 13/07/2018 10:15

Have only read page 1, and agree that women can't win. However...although I can't stand Arlene Foster, I admire the absolute rightness of her clothes for any occasion. Low key, but making her look her best. Men can get away with suits and ties, women in politics have to go one step further and make sure they have a really good stylist. It shouldn't matter, but it does. :(

Kingkiller · 13/07/2018 10:15

But I think clothes do matter, just like rhetoric, bearing and personal hygiene matter for a politician or leader.

They matter only if the person is wearing something properly inappropriate, or looks unwashed or unkempt. That's about it.

Matrons · 13/07/2018 10:17

I do not understand why people ALWAYS have to judge women on their fashion sense rather than something that is actually material. Her dress was appropriate to the occasion and she is a prime mi site not a model. Get a life op.

Seasawride · 13/07/2018 10:18

Arthuritus

I think it’s because she is tall and has for years tried to stoop a bit probably going back to the school years as being taller than the boys she liked.

Tall girls are celebrated now but pehaos not so much when she was younger???