To wonder why we aren't rioting in the streets?

[Danniz]

So:
The government is about to begin stockpiling processed food in case the country is plunged into chaos by a “no deal” Brexit.
In just over half a year the UK is going to be wrecked for decades to come. We're looking at rationing, for God's sake. Power cuts. Mass unemployment. The loss of our employment and human rights. The new Health Secretary has allegedly received 10s of 1000s from the head of a thinktank that wants to abolish the NHS. There is no plan for the future. Not even the most ardent of the Brexiter politicians that got us into this mess are pretending that we aren't looking at massive economic and social problems.
Isn't it time for us as ordinary citizens who, with our children, will pay for this fiasco to start demonstrating, meeting our MPs, doing anything else that might possibly help to stop this? I don't just mean the demonstration that took place in London, and the others around the country - I mean serious numbers of people, making their voices heard. Because we will all suffer the very serious consequences of this mess.

Fatbarry
That would be due to the appalling post Brexit exchange rate? To judge whether foods are more expensive you need to compare with income levels in that country, taxation, living costs etc. Then you’ll find that the opposite is true.

People should be aware that Jacob Rees Mogg actually told a Commons Committee that he wanted complete mutual recognition of standards with all other countries - so in other words if Zimbabwe says that a product is safe all other countries should accept it as safe.

So, in other words, you will have to make your own judgements on whether a product is safe. If your kid dies because the toy you bought for them wasn't safe then that's just tough.

We were told planes would fall in the sky.

You do realise that people took measures to ensure that didn't happen, just in case?
Or would you rather not have done anything, just to prove they were right?

You do realise that people took measures to ensure that didn't happen, just in case?

Yes.

Are some people's main objections to the EU, supposed silly rules? Really?

It's hard to know whether to laugh or cry.

People want to risk food shortages, loss of jobs etc because they demand the right to use unsafe oven gloves.

And that is apparently not a caricature.

You cant talk reason to lunacy

Are some people's main objections to the EU, supposed silly rules? Really

*It's hard to know whether to laugh or cry.

People want to risk food shortages, loss of jobs etc because they demand the right to use unsafe oven gloves.*

And that is apparently not a caricature

If thats aimed at me I not once said anything about oven gloves nor did I say I wanted brexit. In fact i very clearly stated I voted remain. But other people are allowed to not want to be a part of the eu and I think its dangerous terratory to pretend the eu is a utopia and without it we are all going to starve to death in the gutters. Theres already a thread where a poster stated she cant sleep or function through the worry of brexit.

Typically - it's great that you were able to work on the continent pre-EU. We have to expect it to be much more difficult post-Brexit, because EU member countries will all give preference to EU workers. Workers from the 27 EU countries will all be in front of our children in the queue for any job in an EU country.

In fact i very clearly stated I voted remain.

Sure you did.

So let's look at another of those "silly regulations" - people with diabetand driving licences.

The law relates to diabetics who have had episodes of sever hypoglycaemia which could obviously be incredibly dangerous if driving. The original directive didn't distinguish between people who only have these episodes when sleeping and those who might have them at any time. After presenting good medical evidence that people who only have these episodes when sleeping are not a danger to others the law was amended.

www.diabetes.org.uk/about_us/news/-eu-changes-night-time-hypos-driving-rules-for-people-with-diabetes

So, not "Diabetics to be banned from the roads" as per the Express.

Sure you did

You got me! I voted leave suckasssss!

It's funny that your posts read like "I'm not racist but...", as in "I'm not against the EU, but...". It's a known tactic used by a certain type of pp.

Martha

Do you not question the motives of people who want to portray sensible regulations on health and safety and the reliability of products as "bonkers"?

If there are masses of these silly regulations affecting us why is the Express - a leading advocate of Brexit -not able to produce better examples?

So people who vote remain all think exactly the same way? All remain voters never critisise the eu ever? All remain voters cant think positively about the future? Interesting. 🤔

It's not the criticism per se, it's the quality of it and the style of posting...

The tories are wrecking the country for their own internal battles. The whole thing is corrupt and ridiculous. Unfortunately the public are too gullible/ignorant/apathetic/in some cases xenophobic to realise. This country's problems are caused by inequality and not the EU. We are a rich country but we have much more poverty and deprivation that many poorer EU countries. This is not the fault of the EU. Our country still has a lot going for it. We are about to throw away a lot of our advantages but not deal with the underlying problem, which is power and wealth concentrated in the hands of the few, which has been worsening steadily since the Thatcher years.
What can we do? Not vote Tory in any elections. People so far seem unwilling to do this - individual greed seems to trump the good of the country.

Because we are British. The British don't riot thank you very much. We are also not loosing any human/employment rights simply by leaving. In order to abolish these rights the government would have to repeal various acts which as far as I am aware they are in no hurry to do. You also seem to fail to understand that we don't need am agreement to trade. You generally se ignorant about how the rest of the world survived without Europe. It will be fine. There will likely be a recession of so esort but it won't be the end of life as we know it. And no, there won't be a zombie apocalypse either.

Don’t worry, we may suffer

• massive job losses
• no isotopes to diagnose or treat cancers
• run out of medicines
• food shortages
• and power cuts

BUT ... the people who convinced people to vote fir this (millionaire Fund managers like Jacob RM and other ‘selfless’ Brexiteers) will succeed in avoiding the new EU rules scheduled to be introduced next year. You know, the new rules to stop rich people avoiding millions in tax. After all that’s what Brexit was all about.

The British don't riot thank you very much.

What was that thing in London a few years ago? Partying hard?

I just dont think there will be a secret cold war waging against the uk and the eu. I dont think all businesses are going to shut down and leave making everyone jobless and homeless and starving because no planes can fly. No boats can go no food can come in. I am realistic in that the next ten years at least will be pretty dire. After that I have hopes the country will pick up. I am not going to sit around catastrophising that we are all going to die terribly. I am rather more interested in learning more about politics and how the current government can be dismantled.

He as PM served the people, and the people wanted to vote.

Far from it - less than 10% of the population had any interest in the EU. If it had been the case we would have had marches and demonstrations. I can remember Poll Tax riots, anti-Cruise missile demos, marches against Tory cuts in Education in the 90s, the Anti Iraq war demonstrations. I can't for the life of me think of any 'We demand a Referendum on the EU' protests.

It's not the criticism per se, it's the quality of it and the style of posting

How weird should we all subscribe to your personal vernacular now lest you get offended?

So, because we voted to do something that is now looking likely to be incredible damaging - because leave gained more votes than remain - we must continue down this path? Regardless of any new evidence or change in world politics, shift in power, we have to leave come what may? This would not happen in our daily lives (unless you were a particularly stubborn ahole), you would change your mind, or at least not implement the change until you’ve investigated further. Our parliamentarians have a duty to use their knowledge gained from access to experts to act in the best interests of the country and constituents. It’s about time they all started to do this.

@Racecardriver If we leave without a deal we fall under World Trade Organisation rule’s. Look them up! They are really bad, worse than a bad deal and much worse than EU negotiated deals, and would cripple any business having to use them.