To wonder why we aren't rioting in the streets?

[Danniz]

So:
The government is about to begin stockpiling processed food in case the country is plunged into chaos by a “no deal” Brexit.
In just over half a year the UK is going to be wrecked for decades to come. We're looking at rationing, for God's sake. Power cuts. Mass unemployment. The loss of our employment and human rights. The new Health Secretary has allegedly received 10s of 1000s from the head of a thinktank that wants to abolish the NHS. There is no plan for the future. Not even the most ardent of the Brexiter politicians that got us into this mess are pretending that we aren't looking at massive economic and social problems.
Isn't it time for us as ordinary citizens who, with our children, will pay for this fiasco to start demonstrating, meeting our MPs, doing anything else that might possibly help to stop this? I don't just mean the demonstration that took place in London, and the others around the country - I mean serious numbers of people, making their voices heard. Because we will all suffer the very serious consequences of this mess.

I wonder will we have butter mountains like the EU love to have.

Brexit could be hard. It's a bit like leaving a job with no prospects, but with a steady wage and pension, in order to work for yourself. That sometimes goes well and sometimes badly doesn't it.

But some of the claims are extreme.

If we suddenly can't buy any food what happens to the EU companies who was selling it? Do we really think the EU want to wreck their own economies? Their best result is if we buy it anyway, but pay a bit more. They will want to fleece us not kill us.

For stuff like "The loss of our employment and human rights" that assumes that we can't have any morals or decent laws unless imposed by the EU. Surely no one believes that?

This post is so if buggers belief

But their will be riots if a democratic vote is seen to be over turned and it will not be like the peaceful neverudum march

Those who seek to role back democracy know not what they do never so dangerous are those who have their rights removed

I doubt if the Leavers will riot. They will continue to grumble about rising prices and other difficulties, but they think Leaving has happened.

Do we really think the EU want to wreck their own economies

This might be comforting if I wasn’t watching the government wreck our economy.

I think its more likely there will be riots if we dont end up leaving the EU. You cant ask the country to vote on a issue then say, "we dont like the result so we are going to ignore it".

So far on this thread you've gone from oh my god there stock piling food, the end is near its never going to be okay. To they're "finally" stoxk piling food like they should have been doing it months ago.

In the words of Mrs potts it'll be alright in the end, you'll see.

Some people are so stupid that they think that because they are used to things being ok, things will inevitably continue to be ok.
If a no deal Brexit happens THAT IS WHEN people will give up on the idea of democracy. They were conned into voting for something they were told would be great. It is actually disastrous. And their political representatives went ahead with it anyway, knowing with absolute certainty that it would be disastrous.
Leavers did not vote for a disastrous Brexit. They voted for a great Brexit. And they were lied to and cheated. This is a betrayal of democracy.

And that's without mentioning the involvement of the Russian government. And the meetings between right-wing Brexiters Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson with the American ultra right-winger - Steve Bannon - previously Trump's right-hand man.

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I think its more likely there will be riots if we dont end up leaving the EU. You cant ask the country to vote on a issue then say, "we dont like the result so we are going to ignore it".
this is exactly what’s happening it’s like a fucking tin pot republic let’s keep voting until we get the required vote and to those who hopes TM fails we have this is store
General election TM looses then labour get in on a re vote
We have the re vote and we get the same brexit result then
What another general election as so we fucking go

The answer to all this is just do what was fucking voted for

They were conned into voting for something they were told would be great

We weren’t conned i understand it’s hard and all the middle classes will suddenly find it’s a lot harder to get a au pair but you have to understand I seen how the EU work and don’t want any of it a certainty don’t want to be ruled by the ducking Germans thanks we have our own twats

The ones who are conned are people who think the eu is democratic and viable

We were conned into think voting to leave actually meant we would be leaving the EU.

Christ, there’s some people in serious denial here! Anyone who’s actually been following the process should know that this isn’t catastrophising at all, it’s reality.

The irony of course is that so many voted leave because they believed, incorrectly, that we were controlled by the EU and had no power... and that’s precisely where a soft Brexit would leave us.

Well done, idiots.

You cant ask the country to vote on a issue then say, "we dont like the result so we are going to ignore it"

See? That’s just ridiculous.

That wouldn’t be the situation at all. It should have become very clear to anyone with an ounce of intelligence that the shit going down now is not what the electorate were led to believe would happen, nor what they voted for.

Processed food being stock piled because most of it comes from the EU?

1. Processed food is probably responsible for the obesity crisis in the UK.

1. Processed food is probably responsible for the power the big 4 supermarkets have over our high streets and towns and put 1000s of farmers out of business.

Cheap, processed food is probably the crack cocaine of our retail sector. Of people have to learn to cook 'real' food tgat surely can't be a bad thing. I like the odd dinner ding but can cope quite happily without it.

But if the UK can't cope without findus pancakes, microwave lasagne and chicken nuggets then maybe the acres and acres of industrial estates that stand empty could actually be put to good use and we could make our own lasagnes?

The prices might go up a bit but I already buy british mince, british veg and British cheese, butter, milk. The only thing that would probably need importing is tinned tomatoes. But I could use fresh instead.

The fact that we rely so much on imported food is why we should be rioting. If all farmland in the uk was put to full use I think I have read somewhere we could be between 90 and 95% self sufficient as a country. That's based on current population levels.

Am sure we could find enough countries in the rest of the world happy to trade with us.

"Leavers did not vote for a disastrous Brexit. They voted for a great Brexit. And they were lied to and cheated. This is a betrayal of democracy."

So what is a good brexit, then?

Cheap, processed food is probably the crack cocaine of our retail sector. Of people have to learn to cook 'real' food tgat surely can't be a bad thing.

We aren’t talking about people learning to cook and adjust budgets to cooking fresh food though are we? We are talking about a sudden enormous impact on our food supply chain. And it’s ridiculously privileged to be banging on about how it might cost just a bit more when people are already reliant on food banks (necessarily full of processed and ambient food) as it is. Shocker.

Running out of medicines is a very real issue. Much of our pharma is produced in the EU and what little is produced in the UK relies on importing raw materials.

And no there currently isn't a government plan to deal with how we carry on prescribing if there is a no deal Brexit.

So what is a good brexit, then?

Good (or not) the only Brexit that can be called Brexit (which the UK voted for) is one where we actually leave the EU!

So much hyperbole.

I think its more likely there will be riots if we dont end up leaving the EU.
If that was the case, then there is a question to ask to why Leavers feel they can go in the street to express their discontent but somehow the Remainers didn’t.

We need to remember that the margin between the yes and the no was very very small. 2% is actually very small when it comes to ‘normal’ elections and would out a government is a very hard place for example.

So knowing that half the country wanted to stay and half wanted to leave, why wouldnt the leave voters go and riots if there wasn’t a Brexit but Remainers wouldn’t go and riot of we do have a full on Brexit (even more if it’s a No Deal brexit with all its hardship)

Good (or not) the only Brexit that can be called Brexit (which the UK voted for) is one where we actually leave the EU!

What a fucking stupid thing to say. Is that how you live your life? Really?

So say you put your house up sale and someone knocked on the door and offered 50p, you take it would you? Because hey good sale or bad sale you'd decided to move...

We had a three day week under the Heath Tory government with power cuts during Coronation Street (for some).
We had five million unemployed under the Thatcher first Tory government.
We had the welfare cuts from IDS under the Cameron Tory led coalition.

Hardly any disturbances at all. So I don't predict riots even if there is no deal for a few days.

Brexit means brain damage.
That's pretty offensive.