To wonder why we aren't rioting in the streets?

[Danniz]

So:
The government is about to begin stockpiling processed food in case the country is plunged into chaos by a “no deal” Brexit.
In just over half a year the UK is going to be wrecked for decades to come. We're looking at rationing, for God's sake. Power cuts. Mass unemployment. The loss of our employment and human rights. The new Health Secretary has allegedly received 10s of 1000s from the head of a thinktank that wants to abolish the NHS. There is no plan for the future. Not even the most ardent of the Brexiter politicians that got us into this mess are pretending that we aren't looking at massive economic and social problems.
Isn't it time for us as ordinary citizens who, with our children, will pay for this fiasco to start demonstrating, meeting our MPs, doing anything else that might possibly help to stop this? I don't just mean the demonstration that took place in London, and the others around the country - I mean serious numbers of people, making their voices heard. Because we will all suffer the very serious consequences of this mess.

that doesn't explain why they have done bugger all since it

Because they are usless.
Frankly something comes up where they need to do actual work and they are clueless.

Our employment rights are not better than in the EU - looking at individual wealthy countries in the EU. There is a lot of variation, obviously. The Tory government has substantially reduced employment rights over the past few years. But many important rights come from EU law which means that the UK government has not been able to touch them. They will be trashed after Brexit.

I'm guessing that maternity and holiday and working time rights will be among the first to go.

Brexiteer argument:

"Yes, I know I told you it was all going to be great but even though I was wrong you have to do it anyway. What do you mean, why can't we just change our minds? Traitor!!!"

Surely them stock piling is a good sign that they're planning for the change over period? Wouldn't it be more worrying if they weren't?

MaxTheMartian

Because just like every single person who lived before us we don't get to choose which part of history we live through.

We do get a choice about which attitude we adopt to it.

We can accept that we don't like it but knuckle down and get on with it. Or, we can run around shrieking about how horrible and unfair it is and plunge ourselves into the depths of despair.

Either way history is going to happen around us regardless.

Take your pick. It's up to you.

But maybe if we stopped shrieking and blaming each other and pulled together like we did in the past, it might just pass a bit more easily.

Apparently Jacob Rees-Mogg has been on a panel discussion, where he has said that business leaders' (the CBI) warnings about Brexit should be ignored.
Very similar to Boris Johnson's "Fuck business" comment. Coming from one of the most senior members of the government.
And you think that the right wing of the Tory party is too responsible to go for a no deal Brexit?
They care about one thing, and one thing only - their own immediate self-interest. Fuck the country.

The thing is i understand why people voted Brexit, and i totally get you were lied to and provoked, notice how the peopel who made all the promises have now jumped ship.

It sucks, but it's not going to be the end of the world, it really isn't.

I'm from the future i know.

YCY - please explain, with concrete examples, what you are doing to "knuckle down and get on with it".

And by the way, my losing my job because of a no deal Brexit (I will also likely lose it if we get hard Brexit instead) doesn't mean that I will be able to dedicate myself to fruit-picking - unless I move many hundreds of miles to do it, and leave my children to fend for themselves at home.

"But maybe if we stopped shrieking and blaming each other and pulled together like we did in the past, it might just pass a bit more easily."

No, this is a way to silence any criticism of brexit, fuck that.

I didn't vote for this, I won't back it, or support it, and I will criticise it and dissent against it.

Democracy see.

Captain - it won't be the end of the world, no. But I'm guessing that in the medium term plenty of people will die because of it. Just thinking about the NHS, social care, further cuts in benefits. I just hope that there is no short-term violence over food etc. But there may be.
As it's not literally the end of the world, should we just shut up about it then?

I'm not sure the leave campaign ever put this on a bus:

It just so happens it's going to be us living through Brexit. We are going to have to deal with it, wether we like it or not. End of. Just like all the poor buggers before us who had to deal with stuff they didn't sign up for

Or, more snappily:

"Brexit, not as bad as World War". Stick that on your bus!

Some of the people on here can't be genuine can they?

They really don't see the difference between wartime and entirely self-inflicted damage that we could choose to walk away from?

should we just shut up about it then?

no we should go on mumsnet and endlessly complain about it.

I'm doing my bit, I'm posting usless things on these threads.

The all working together against adversity feeling that people had during the war (though this has been exaggerated) really won't happen after Brexit, will it? Because the damage is being inflicted, completely unnecessarily, by people within the UK against others in the UK. So more of a civil war scenario really. How fun was that?

as 1 in 3 of the electorate didn't vote you can assume that a lot weren't bothered and won't be bothered now.

Interestingly I didn't see a leave campaign (apart from news coverage of the bus which was clear nonsense). Every single house in the country got the remain campaign sent to them.

not sure what it proves but just a thought.

stockpiling is a good idea, just in time is stupid. Power shortages are coming anyway, 70 million with infrastructure for 50 million. This is partly due to EU policies (windfarms, close functioning stations) but more due to decades of art-student understanding - so no new nuclear stations, smart meters not insulation etc etc.

and if you've never lost a job from redundancy - you must be the queen. it happens to most of us and always has.

Brexit, not as bad as World War

And when Trump decides to drag us into a war we can then have:

World war 3, Not as bad as brexit

On buses

Sad. So many commenters, such a mixture of ignorance, disinformation, panic and hate.

The government has always had food stockpiles. This baseless, nothing story will soon vanish. Mostly, it's someone's idesa of getting the EU to realise planning for no deal / WTO is more advanced than many realise.

The EU will almost certainly reject May's BRINO, as will Brexiteers. May herself, for all her big talk, is all but finished. We are leaving the EU, and almost certainly with no deal, which will be fine.

And all you people terrified and angry about what this will mean will just have to suck it up.

Because you lost.

"We are leaving the EU, and almost certainly with no deal, which will be fine."

which is your opinion and the opposite of all the evidence.

"You lost"

Ah but its a Pyrrhic victory, you didn't win anything.

It just so happens it's going to be us living through Brexit.

But the UK could choose not to leave.

It's madness.

WhollyFather - you must realise that the worst affected will, in the main, be those who "won" the EU referendum vote. They will have the added satisfaction of realising that they were successfully played.

I think what made me give up hope is that May can't even control her own party, so my hope very early on that Labour and Tory working together and being a strong unnity with getting good deals was a pipe dream.

I gave up caring after that.

This is like fiddling while Rome burns

or telling the starving people to eat cake. Or in this case, scones and cucumber sandwiches.