To think people genuinely hate England?

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Is anyone else sick of seeing the anger/hatred towards England in the World Cup? This 'anyone but england' mentality from almost every other country is disheartening honestly. I've seen every excuse under the sun, we haven't played a proper team yet, 200,000 signatures to re-play the Colombia match because apparently that wasn't fair, blaming a few rowdy fans for not wanting England to win. I'm especially surprised by the amount of Scottish/Irish/Welsh people who seem to feel like this (on social media) i know we'd so be routing for our neighbours if it was the other way round! So... AIBU to think everyone just friggin hates England?!

rather sit at home playing little wife

Horrid thing to write. Way to go to minimise the role of women. You must be so proud of yourself.

I don't hate England but I don't expect lot of class and manners from the English

That’s a really unfair statement to make, and wrong too. The English people I know (lots) are lovely, and welcoming and kind.

Not liking the English football team is one thing, but making sweeping nasty statements about English people as a whole is not on.

Substitute England/English for any other country and the statement would be rightly trashed

Really? Don’t see many castigating the shite being spouted about other countries on this very thread.

I hate to break it to you but the stats for these types of crimes (particularly on the domestic violence after football) are as bad if not worse in Scotland

Old Firm games aside, state your source?

Glasgow isn’t the whole of Scotland. Much like the football dickheads aren’t the whole of England. HTH.

@howfaralong

Don't take my comment out of context. It was in response to someone saying women who go out to work are jealous of those who stay at home.

Doesn't make it acceptable. It's vile and minimising. You were trying to be dismissive and make a person feel like shit.

Don't tell me what I was trying to do, you've no idea.

Sadly you are right olivia. The old firm shite causes a huge spike in DV but not the Scotland games

Having lived in a small town in central Scotland I know that riots and general mayhem can happen after an old firm match, or an Orange walk or a Republican walk. The old firm have a lot to answer for

Some English people behave badly. As do some people of other nations and races.
Exactly and I find it a bit much to be lectured by someone living in Scotland as if it never happens with fans there. Ever seen a Celtic v Rangers match.

Wales got loads of coverage at the last euros.
Certainly, but I didn't have to listen to build up to every Wales game at the start, during half time and at the end of every other game being played. I'm a Welsh football fan and even I didn't want to watch interviews with Bale, Bellamy, Hartson or Giggs for ten random minutes before an Iceland game.

Maybe the reason why England are getting all the coverage at this world cup is that they are the only team that qualified
No-one cares that you qualified and we didn't, honestly, which is what I assume you're truly to imply. We're not annoyed at not being there. I grew up watching Wales play at the Millennium Stadium lose 3-0+ to Azerbaijan, Trinidad and Tobago, Georgia and the rest when even a draw was a success to us back then. I don't expect us to be there. I expect England to be there because they've always been higher in the FA rankings than us. Doesn't mean we all want to watch 24/7 media coverage.

I say this as a Scottish person so no flaming, but in my opinion a lot of Scots and Welsh people have a huge fucking chip on their shoulder about the English that borders on xenophobia.

It's shameful the way the English are spoken about for no good reason. Insert "Muslim/black" etc and it would be a different story.

My dad goes on about Hadrian's Wall and defending Scotland. Er, from what? Newsflash - no English person alive today has ever been at war with Scotland. let it fucking go.

Every single encounter I've had with English football fans puts me off, quite honestly. First football match I went to at 14, I was sexually harassed and my black boyfriend was racially abused. (Arsenal -Coventry match.) The three time I've been on a train with hordes of England fans, they've been drunk, loud and abusive. The one time I've experienced domestic violence it was by a bf who'd just watch England lose to Germany. The whole world cup seems to take over everything - no other sport is treated as if it's this important! Honestly, don't get me started about why I'm not cheering England on.

How vulgar of you to point it out.

Isn't it pertinent?

If my DC were going hungry and I didn't fancy going to work, there would be a problem. If financially the family is sorted and my time would be better spent elsewhere, why shouldn't I? Besides, I didn't go into specifics. Saying the number of figures would be better described as vulgar, especially when it has no relation to what you're saying whatsoever.

But more to the point, I don't do it for "dignity." I do it because it's the best thing for my family. The other "impacting issues" are I'd rather prioritise emotional and academic support for my children, as well as their health and wellbeing, over an extra 40k a year.

If I prioritised my pride over my family, got a conventional job and just let my children down, I'd feel much worse than I do now. I hope that most parents would feel the same.

@JaneyEJones and @SoddingUnicorns, the OP wanted feedback, she got the feedback.
I might have been unhappy to have visited and lived in few of the cities popular as hen and stag party capitals so my impression may be biased but this was my experience of the English. Not all of them but a majority and I find it very sad when I can say about someone "oh, he or she is lovely for an English person" but that was how I saw it. I am not trying to troll here or be intentionally unpleasant, just giving my honest impression.

"I'm a Welsh football fan and even I didn't want to watch interviews with Bale, Bellamy, Hartson or Giggs for ten random minutes before an Iceland game."

So you're really objecting to the way international football is shown on the TV ? This happens in other countries too.

"No-one cares that you qualified and we didn't, honestly, which is what I assume you're truly to imply"

No, what I said was the reason England are dominating the coverage is that they qualified and no other nation that could possibly get UK tv coverage did.

England have competed in the world cup since 1950, and reached the semi finals on 3 occasions. The MAJORITY of people in the UK are interested in it as a news story, and it happens relatively rarely.

Or should the news be specific to your interests at all times?

Don't tell me what I was trying to do, you've no idea.

If someone refers to stay at home wives or mothers in that way then it is perfectly obvious what they are trying to do.

agree with thatmustbenigel

Well the Vikings took our country for a couple of centuries, and we don't hold it against them.

You were trying to be dismissive and make a person feel like shit.

I think what she's trying to do is cover up her own insecurity.

No happy and confident woman stamps over other women's sensible choices with vile misogynistic comments like she's making. She's trying to reinforce that she is superior - which is why she made the original comment about footballers' wives, puts down SAHM, felt the need to mention the specifics of her husbands' salary, talks about "vulgarity" in a skewed concept of etiquette, and is so obsessed with "dignity".

I bet she was trying to be dismissive and make me and chris feel bad. All that's really happened is I feel bad for her.

Good to see that women are just as tribal as men and that we are all people.

I think people may be taking the ABE thing with regard to football a little too seriously - I've watched many a sporting event with Scottish fans who are also ABW.

So you're really objecting to the way international football is shown on the TV ? This happens in other countries too.
In the UK it only happens for England. It didn't happen for Wales in the Euros. They gave us good coverage, sure, but morning TV presenters weren't interviewing random politicians talking about Brexit (Vince Cable on BBC Breakfast Saturday) or people queueing to see Wimbledon. I am saying I was happy with the coverage Wales received as it was more than usual but not sheer, dumb saturation.

The MAJORITY of people in the UK are interested in it as a news story, and it happens relatively rarely
I am not objecting to ANY coverage! I am objecting to the sheer amount of it, and how anyone can disagree is quite frankly astounding. The "headline" news on every morning show for two weeks has been England playing, sometimes two or three days later. This coverage has been apparently more important than a murdered 6 year old in Scotland, trapped 11 year olds in Thai caves, another poisoned British couple in Salisbury and the Brexit shitshow. How does that make any sense?

The "headline" news on every morning show for two weeks has been England playing, sometimes two or three days later. This coverage has been apparently more important than a murdered 6 year old in Scotland, trapped 11 year olds in Thai caves, another poisoned British couple in Salisbury and the Brexit shitshow. How does that make any sense?

I've had Sky and BBC News on all morning. The footie is maybe the 5th story, and then confined to the sports news.

And whether or not you are personally interested, the fact that England has a very good chance of winning the World Cup for the first time in over 50 years is a huge story by any standards. It would be the same in any country.

Oh! I thought it was supposed to be us English who were intolerant xenophobes.. you Brexit and all that!

Seem we aren't the only ones... Pot, Kettle etc!

So, it isn't vulgar to talk about enormous salaries but it is vulgar to specify a logarithmic range?! Yeah, ok then, if it makes you feel better.

It wasn't really pertinent no because you go on to say you don't work in order for you to prioritise the DC. Therefore your husband having an 'enormous' salary is by the by. You wanted to get that in, to 'prove' that you don't have to work.

Fortunately for us, we are also able to prioritise our children in addition to being in paid employment, like many millions of working parents across the world.

@howfaralong

I was not referring to stay at home mothers.