To be disgusted by my own city?

[DelRaya]

Seen lovely footage of fans “celebrating” by smashing up a taxi ... jumping up and down on it, completely smashed the windscreen. All done with a large crowd watching them and singing.

Jumping up and down on bus shelters, again smashing them to pieces.

I’m so utterly disgraced with my hometown.

They aren’t football fans. They’re drunken twats who use any excuse to get shit-faced.

Do you honestly think these people behave well on the hundreds of days a year there is no football?

I think alcohol sales/consumption in public should be policed, rather than banning the football (and I say that as someone who has zero interest in the World Cup). Pubs need to stop serving people who are clearly already pissed.

We went for a quiet drink in the garden of a normally very quiet local pub at 9pm last night. There were people who'd been there all day drinking. In the couple of hours we were there, we saw:

One fight
One father telling his poor DC (no good with children's ages but I don't think they were more than 5) to 'sit down and stop fucking whingeing' because unsurprisingly they were bored but mum and dad wanted to carry on drinking
One group deliberately annoying the landlord's wife's dog, and arguing with landlord when he told them to leave ... they then phoned a taxi to go to another pub in the town centre!

This was a 'nice' local pub so I dread to think what the scene was like in town!

This is why I can't stand football

In my corner of East London every pub was showing it but it was all hugs and smiles. There was no aggression on the streets at all.

I also think social media can make things seem worse. I’m sure if all of the people who witnessed a peaceful aftermath posted, they’d be far more of them than those who witnessed violence.

As a Scot, it's this kind of behaviour that makes it hard for me to support england as I'm inclined to do. The culture from some fans is just so disgraceful. YANBU OP, any decent person would hate this

I'm in a different European country right now and the English fans watching in the pubs here yesterday were horrendous...I had to leave the city centre early evening because I was so embarrassed and didn't want to be associated with them. This is why I refer to myself as Irish abroad, rather than British...

Before you mentioned it I just felt that it had to be Nottingham - my city too. I don't know why they behave like this - after all, dare I say that it's only a game. What will happen if we get further in the competition?
Will the 'fans' smash up buses to celebrate a win - or make themselves feel better if we lose? Either way football seems to bring out the worst in these idiots, who after all, need little encouragement.

It's just one reason why I don't follow our local team anymore.

Not every part of England reacted in the same way. I have seen worse drunkenness and behaviour from people exiting Ascot than I have seen from people watching the world cup match in pubs and bars.

My town was very pleasant. Hardly any different to a normal Saturday in Summer.

I don't like football, and the main reason I don't like it is the way some "fans" act. I was getting a takeaway last night and some boozed up dude was in there with his mates, shouting the eng-er-land and other various chants at the top of his voice, to be fair his mates were trying to get him to shut up but then a whole barrage of "if you don't like it, get the eff out the country" etc came out his mouth instead...

Then last night someone/some people went through a local area to me and tipped over loads of the flower pots on the high street that loads of volunteers have spent making look lovely, now soil everywhere and squashed flowers. Not necessarily a footie fan, but as there was the football and carnival yesterday there were loads of drunk people around. I just don't get why people are so hellbent on trashing things.

DelRaya

Cornwall is a very different place to Nottingham or Derby or any big city up country.

My brother was in D and C force, I'm not saying they don't do the hard police work just that there are times when there isn't anyone to arrest so they do things like return an escapee dog to its owner (not until it had escaped police custody) that most places wouldn't/couldn't deal with.

I'd love to see them bring the army in to deal with them all. Wasters.

It's embarrassing to be English at times like this. A country of drunks.

A country of drunks

I’d be more embarrassed by your hyperbole to be honest

tipped over loads of the flower pots on the high street that loads of volunteers have spent making look lovely, now soil everywhere and squashed flowers.

That's truly awful. That sort of thing makes me feel sick.

Football fans are a different breed from the more upmarket sports of rugby and tennis.

As a Scot, it's this kind of behaviour that makes it hard for me to support england

Er, you clearly do not remember/are too young to know about the Scottish behaviour at England v Scotland matches in the 70s at Wembley. Just find it on YouTube. They actually had to stop this annual fixture due to the drunken and loutish antics of the Scottish fans.

I have to confess the reference to Scotland as an example for England made me laugh too! Have Celtic and Rangers fans cleaned up their act nowadays? I like the vibrancy of Scottish culture, but it is hardly a country where violence and drunkenness are unknown.

I also live in Nottingham and it is embarrassing and scary behaviour.
Tbh Nottingham has become a right shit hole and I say that, having lived there all my life. I avoid the City centre unless absolutely necessary.

Football fans are a different breed from the more upmarket sports of rugby and tennis

All of them? All football fans? All rugby and tennis fans?

Football fans are a different breed from the more upmarket sports of rugby and tennis

Whilst I think the behaviour of fans "celebrating" has been deplorable, sweeping generalisations like this do nothing to help. A lot of rugby and tennis fans are also football fans. It's to do with the type of person, not the sport.

It's absolutely awful. WHY is it ok to behave like this? win, lose or draw there is NO excuse for their behaviour.

I'm disgusted by my ex husband who said it's because 'they're excited' WTAF? ok so next time I win a tenner on a scratchcard should I go let his tyres down?! told him he was part of the problem

I expected noise, having been stranded in the city centre, but naively because it was a win I hadn’t expected the anti social behaviour, vandalism and violence.

At home, apparently, it was just a few people cheering in garden, as you’d expect.

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I hate any 'celebration' which leaves broken glass, vomit and other bodily 'fluids' on the pavement.

Whilst for those that have witnessed this behaviour it might seem like everywhere was like this but I think for the most parts of the country things passed relatively peacefully.

Here, the police let it be known that dispersal orders would be used in the event of trouble.

We heard some singing while the match was on, some cheerful loud chatting as people came home around 11, and some people nearby had a brief, but loud, firework display. That may not have been anything to do with the football though, there's one in the summer most years, possibly someone's birthday.

Mind you, if there had been trouble, I'm not sure the police would have the resources to deal with it, even with a dispersal order. There's usually only 2 coppers on duty here at night, and if they nick someone, they have to take them to a custody suite 10 miles away, leaving none to police the town.