AIBU to keep work's refund?

[Tartle]

So I've been oop north for a training session today, train and expenses all paid for by work. Due to a fatality on the line at Watford earlier today the train is running about 90 mins late and I am whiling away my time drinking rubbish overpriced train wine and filling in the delay repay form on the virgin trains website.

So here is my question. Work obviously bought my ticket so if I get the cost refunded should I pay it back because it was their money or AIBU to pocket the cash as compensation because it's me that been on the sodding train for 4 sodding hours?

I still have to be at work tomorrow at 8 am so not feeling like I owe them that much right now.

It's grim oop North dolphin - favourite saying of my Yorkshireman dh

I wouldn’t risk my job over it

I would ask your manager - should I keep the compensation or would you prefer that I claim the time back instead?

For goodness sake. This happened on the way home. The company paid for her to travel to attend training, which she did. The company have lost nothing and incurred no costs because of the delay, it’s only the OP who has been inconvenienced and incurred costs.

I wouldn’t give it back, I’d be perfectly happy explaining why, and I’ve never worked for a company who’d expect the money in this situation.

Yabu to use the term ‘oop north’. It’s patronising and offensive.

Seriously, do folk just trawl threads for stuff to get offended by?? 😂

Oop North is offensive as it infers that up here we're either all country bumpkins pottering around our farms with our whippets or living in a real life LS Lowry painting.

No it doesn't. If you extrapolate all that from two words, you haven't got enough to do with your life.

We have to refund it to our employer, although I'm public sector so might be different if you work for a private company.

I had a very similar situation a few years ago. I told work. They told me to keep the refund. The reasoning was that they had paid for me to travel between 2 cities - which had happened. The refund was compensation for my evening spent trundling backwards and forwards across the Pennines for 5 hours!

So OP what ya gonna do?

I'd tell work about the compensation and ask if I could have it if they said yes great if not boooo but not worth getting the tin tack.

Yes @barbaraofseville I always find it odd when people recommend that visitors to London go shopping when, as you say, some of the same big shops are in other cities.

It's weird because London has so much not found anywhere else in the UK, world class galleries, museums, theatres, talks, concerts, huge amount of history - god knows why anyone would spend their time here on Oxford Street!

I wouldn’t give it back, I’d be perfectly happy explaining why, and I’ve never worked for a company who’d expect the money in this situation.

I have. I could have explained all I like but I would have been sacked for gross misconduct.

On what grounds? She made her journey. She attended the training. Completely different story if she had been unable to travel or attend the training.

Oop North is offensive as it infers that up here we're either all country bumpkins pottering around our farms with our whippets or living in a real life LS Lowry painting.
I'll tell my mother not to use it again too - the fact that she's Lancashire born & bred is probably irrelevant. (I'd much rather be from Oop North than Daarn Sarf)

I'm.a northerner and I certainly don't associate oop north with being a country bumpkin. Surely it means we live in grim former mill towns? Some people are professionally offended by this kind of thing and need to get a grip.

I'm in the run it past your boss camp OP. However I would hope you'd get to keep it as you are the inconvenienced party here, not your employer. If it had been the journey TO your training / meeting Work engagement, I think the employer should be the recipient.

Keep the comp but if it was me I’d donate some to the Samaritans, as there’s been a fatality - proportion is a judgement call on you

www.westmidlandsrailway.co.uk/about-us/delay-repay

Some people in the industry feel similar about delays due to someone taking their own life/trying to. WMR (and probably London Northwestern, I'm not sure and haven't checked) now give it as an option when you claim delay repay.

Maybe donate any refunded money to a mental health charity due to the circumstances of your delay

Depends on company policy.

I used to work for a household name and travel a lot. Clear policy that we could keep it. £1000 a month at 1 point

My DH works for a bank. They can keep it if they get delay repay vouchers but not if they ask for cash.

On what grounds? She made her journey. She attended the training. Completely different story if she had been unable to travel or attend the training.

On the grounds it is company money. Company money bought the tickets and any refund belongs to the company. Any employee would have been expected to pay that refund back.

Haven't read the full thread but the legal answer is that you need to check your employer's terms and conditions. They may specifically state that any compensation or refunds for travel delays, etc. must be paid to the company. In that case, failure to pass the compensation to them could lead to disciplinary action. However, if your employer does not have any such policy in place the compensation is yours and you can keep it with a clear conscience.

You should tell work, they might get an email saying about the refund if they bought the ticket

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so funny that ‘oop North ‘ is considered offensive 🤣🤣🤣

#idiots

What the heq, the company would save more money if OP gave them the refund. So it's cheeky saying she paid for cheaper ticket to save company money but she's taking that refund right off them. If it was her money , then of course it's fair but it wasn't I don't understand how you didn't understand my post.
Someone lost their life that night but keeping the money for being delayed is what's right here though (!)

I’d keep it. If you want to check with work, I would mention it (or better yet email it - paper trail) to your manager: “just so you know, I am claiming compensation for yesterday’s train journey, which meant I arrived home at 1am.”

That way they are also aware of the inconvenience you’ve experienced —and still made it in for 8am—

“We have to refund it to our employer, although I'm public sector so might be different if you work for a private company.”

It’s not a refund. It’s compensation.

I would be stunned if an employer demanded this. It is compensation for inconvenience, which the employer didn’t experience. The OP did.

So many downtrodden people on MN who unquestioningly kowtow to authority.