AIBU to keep work's refund?

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So I've been oop north for a training session today, train and expenses all paid for by work. Due to a fatality on the line at Watford earlier today the train is running about 90 mins late and I am whiling away my time drinking rubbish overpriced train wine and filling in the delay repay form on the virgin trains website.

So here is my question. Work obviously bought my ticket so if I get the cost refunded should I pay it back because it was their money or AIBU to pocket the cash as compensation because it's me that been on the sodding train for 4 sodding hours?

I still have to be at work tomorrow at 8 am so not feeling like I owe them that much right now.

Pmsl at the offense some people take!

Get aaaaght a ma pub!

There has been a fatality on the line and you're trying to claim compensation for something that is beyond the train company's control! Where is your compassion?? A person has died and all you are concerned about is getting a refund?? Wow

if you got paid for your time that you were delayed as in they gave you 4 hours pay give it back to work If not keep it .I don't get paid for travel time so i always keep it . Sorry but are people really offended by down sraf and up north don't get it

This has happened to me before and technically I kept the money but I actually used it to book another work journey - but first lass not standard. First was cheaper on this occasion but were not allowed to book it through the system.

It’s compensation not a refund. Compensation for the inconvenience, discomfort etc to you, not the company.

Yabu to use the term ‘oop north’. It’s patronising and offensive.

Good grief. Some people really do love to be offended by the most ridiculous things.

And I'm from about as far up north as you can get.

Yabu to use the term ‘oop north’. It’s patronising and offensive.

I pity anyone who finds it either of those.

You need to ask your employer. It's not worth possible disciplinary action over.

I know someone who used this scenario as an interview question and those who said they'd keep the money didn't get to the next round.

Oop North is offensive as it infers that up here we're either all country bumpkins pottering around our farms with our whippets or living in a real life LS Lowry painting.
That's some deep thinking right there.
I would love to live in a Lowry painting....
spectaculary misses point

The thing about expenses is this. How would you feel explaining the situation to your manager's manager, or someone who doesn't really like you?

Would you feel a bit dodgy: Yes - then don't make the claim.

No - then perfectly valid.

In your case, OP, you know this doesn't really fly - so you have to refund it.

Would you expect your employer not to pay you because you didn't actually manage to do any work either? Works both ways!

Oops north also implies that everywhere 'oop north' is the same and there's no need to differentiate.

If the OP didn't want to say where she'd been she could have just said she'd been on a train, where she went is not relevant to the story.

Fucks sake, just when you think you've heard it all, now people are offended by oop north??? Get a grip

So morally I go with this:

"But the compensation is for the inconvenience right? And you’re the one inconvenienced, not your employer?"

In this case you were on your way home, so your employer has no replacement travel costs, this was eating into your evening. If you had been delayed on your way to the course so had either missed the course or incurred extra travel costs I would have said your employer should get the money (or similarly if they had been paying you overtime for your time on the train).

But having heard the various stories about sackings I would also check with your employer's policy/your employer!

There truly are some people, who go out of their way to be offended. FFS!?

Don’t make eye contact, pocket the money & run!

It's not a refund it's delay compensation. I've just put in my delay repay claim for yesterday and I'll keep the compensation.

Keep the comp but if it was me I’d donate some to the Samaritans, as there’s been a fatality - proportion is a judgement call on you

Bit of an arsehole comment. Who said you got to decide on 'judgement calls'? I'm willing to bet you didn't donate to Samaritans on reading about it.

I can't believe companies would sack staff over keeping train compo what a horrible environment to work in. I would just check with your line manager in case OP, even though I think it should absolutely be yours to keep.

We get to keep the compensation for the delay, because we're the ones who are affected by the delay.

Or you could be the bigger person and do what a friend of mine did in similar circumstances and donate the refund to mental health charities. In her case the fatality was caused by someone wanting to end their life and, although she was similarly inconvenienced, she realised it was nothing compared to the person who ended their life.

“There has been a fatality on the line and you're trying to claim compensation for something that is beyond the train company's control! Where is your compassion?? A person has died and all you are concerned about is getting a refund?? Wow”

This ^^

I would consult your line manager, but present it as "this is compensation for having a long unpleasant journey and a horrible evening so I believe this money should be kept by me, just wanted to check that you agree." - only use the word "compensation" not "refund"

A decent employer will agree. If they don't agree then you probably have bigger problems with your job than this little incident.

Check the policy at work. There's a good chance you'll be able to keep it - one of my previous employers definitely would have told me to keep it as they wouldn't have had a process for accepting the refund!

I got a £250 refund (I'd booked on my credit card) and a free weekend in the luxury suite for an apology for an incident at the hotel I was staying at for work. I told my boss and he ran it past his manager and it was (eventually) agreed was my inconvenience, my compensation.

It wasn't black and white though, so I'd definitely tell your manager.

Agree it is compensation for your inconvenience. Work paid for a train ticket from A to B. The train will eventually get you there, albeit late, so work will have received the service work paid for so, aren't due a refund. You're the poor mug who has to hang about waiting for a delayed train. (Oooh, is that offensive to mugs?)

I'd check with your employer. Doesn't matter what anyone on MN says or whether they think it is morally 'right' you keep it, if you get found out you could be sacked. Not worth it for a few quid.

simple, just dont claim compensation, you didnt pay for the ticket.