AIBU to keep work's refund?

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So I've been oop north for a training session today, train and expenses all paid for by work. Due to a fatality on the line at Watford earlier today the train is running about 90 mins late and I am whiling away my time drinking rubbish overpriced train wine and filling in the delay repay form on the virgin trains website.

So here is my question. Work obviously bought my ticket so if I get the cost refunded should I pay it back because it was their money or AIBU to pocket the cash as compensation because it's me that been on the sodding train for 4 sodding hours?

I still have to be at work tomorrow at 8 am so not feeling like I owe them that much right now.

I'd keep it but that's only because I know my company's policy allows it, so long as we don't claim the extra time as time worked - it's one or the other. As it happens I never get the time to take any accrued hours anyway so I just take the cash! But definitely worth checking what the policy is.

"Yabu to use the term ‘oop north’. It’s patronising and offensive"

LOL, must tell my northern DH to stop patronising and offending himself.

Yes I think you should give it back. It's not worth being pulled for it. I hope you get your time back at least. Awful.

pint Oop north is probably used with affection. Us suvners like a northern accent. Well I do and I know I'm not alone.

We can’t say ooo norf and ^dahn sarf” now?!

I bet it was like this under Oliver Cromwell

My work book all our travel and pay but we can claim any delays. I don't ever claim flexi or in lieu time but I think policy is you can't get both. I prefer the "sometimes I'm 10 mins late and you don't care because I often get home from stuff hours late" approach.

This happened to me last year due to the train breaking down. I claimed a refund but checked with work - or rather the travel company who make all our bookings- and they confirmed in writing that as it was me who was inconvenienced I was entitled to the money.

I'd just check first with your company what their policy is

At my work or would be required to go to the company / employer, as they paid for the ticket. It would also be gross misconduct for keeping the monies here. Definitely check.

creased at the offended poster. Oop Norf?? Seriously? What exactly is offensive about that?

Definitely check with work with this one. I had compensation like this once and, because I am ridiculously honest and we are public sector and we are not allowed any slightest monetary perk like this, I tried to give the money to work, but to my surprise my department head said that I should keep it as it was me that had been delayed.

Unfortunately, the compo was in the form of a voucher for travel and I never got round to using it, so the money was wasted.

'the ticket refund minus a bottle glass of wine would be an acceptable amount to hand over' would certainly cause more trouble than it was worth where I work because our ethos is of the puritanical 'no free booze on the public dime ever' variety.

Oop North is offensive as it infers that up here we're either all country bumpkins pottering around our farms with our whippets or living in a real life LS Lowry painting.

On a business trip to London I was once asked if I was going to go shopping while I was there in a 'Oh, you'll want to see all the great shops while you're here won't you'. Cue a confused face from me and a mumbled 'well we do have shops in Leeds too you know'.

Oop North is offensive as it infers that up here we're either all country bumpkins pottering around our farms with our whippets or living in a real life LS Lowry painting.

i took it for a description of a regional accent, nothing more nothing less

Well I hail from norniron and don't get offended by that.

I don't think you will be able to keep the compensation money because you didn't pay for the ticket. This happened to me on a work trip and I didn't get any of the compensation. Check work policy and explain the situation today.

Oop North is offensive as it infers that up here we're either all country bumpkins pottering around our farms with our whippets or living in a real life LS Lowry painting.

Sorry but this smacks of an inferiority complex. Cockney accents are mocked but they aren't so sensitive.

So you say you stayed later so you saved money getting the off peak ticket, even though it wasn't you saving money as you didn't pay for your ticket?
But your willing to keep the money compensated anyway?

It's compensation for your time, OP.
Similar to PPs, our company wouldn't bother to reclaim it, they've paid for your travel so it's achieved the aim of you getting there and back.

So you say you stayed later so you saved money getting the off peak ticket, even though it wasn't you saving money as you didn't pay for your ticket?
But your willing to keep the money compensated anyway?

Sorry but this makes no sense. I’d say her staying later than she had too just to save her employer some money should be all the more reason to keep the compensation money.

My train company does not pay compensation for such delays as they are classed as not its fault. Are you even sure it’s worth filling in the form?

My train was delayed by the same incident yesterday. I was travelling with a colleague who had paid for both of our tickets on a company credit card. Our refund will go back on to that card. If he arranged for the refund to go on to his personal card I would be .
Bohemond - the train manager on the Virgin train we were on told passengers via an announcement that they could claim compensation. I was also a bit surprised as FGW don't compensate in similar circumstances.

I would say it was compensation for time pegged at the price of the ticket (rather than a refund). However I would check with my line manager that it was okay to keep it.

IME I wouldnt raise this with the travel expense team as it would set them off on yet another policy restatement exercise resulting in me having to pay them for the luxury of having had a seat to sit in for 4 hours. I would also get a strongly worded email about drinking the wine while on a company trip even if it was in my own time. HR would be informed so that they could stage an intervention.

I am in the midlands and am therefore offended by all this oop north and daan sarf stuff as I cant join in.

Depends what kind of company you work for. If it's pretty big with a heavy emphasis on risk and compliance, I would disclose it to my line manager and get black and white approval to keep the money.

If you pay the money back, but then claim overtime for your extra hours working due train being late then I'm sure it would be kinda similar anyway

FWIW I manage departments at work with around 300 staff, people travel all the time and nobody has ever offered to pay any money back, I'm sure it has come up as I've done May job for 7 years! And I'd be if the opinion too that it's inconvenience and you're the one inconvenienced so wouldn't expect the money back - depends on your work though don't risk it if you think you'd be in trouble

Perhaps tell your boss that you were delayed and about the inconvenience allowance given and what to do ..

The money is to compensate for a rubbish setvice. The person affected by the rubbish service was you not your employer. It goes to you.

Someone up thread said your employees paid so it's not your money but theirs. Rubbish. It's not theirs either. They paid for what they got... an employee transported from a to b and back again.

japan yes, I am FGW. We were delayed two hours last week for a similar incident.