Wedding day....England are playing?????

[arghhhhhhh]

Just been on fb and someone I know (though not well and I am nit invited to the wedding!) is getting married on Saturday. Obviously England are playing.

She has it a status on saying she has had multiple requests from guests wanting to know if the football will be shown.

Her status basically says she's angry at the messages she's had and under no circumstances will the football be shown. It's her wedding and the day is about that and that only. She's asked that no one checks their phones during the match and is even going to have a sign made for when people enter the venue as a reminder it's a football free zone.

Now she's had a fair few comments - a couple even say they wouldn't attend if they were invited due to her attitude.

What's everyone's opinions?

Me personally, I'd show it! I love football though, I've followed the World Cup through out and I'd be gutted if I couldn't watch it! I'd be making arrangements with the venue to make sure it's on.

The atmosphere would be amazing. I'd be jumping around with everyone else in my dress.....

Also a great way to break up the day. The day goes so fast for the bride and groom but the day guests....it can be such a long and tiring day. What a great way to break up the day!

Also, we are doing well, we haven't been in this situation where we may actually have a good chance of WINNING!!!! for years and probably never will again. The whole country is routing for them. Even people who don't like football are into it. I just don't think it's fair to expect people not to watch it, or not even check their phones!

Saying that....I do understand this lady's frustrations. She's been planning this wedding for over a year. I got married quite recently and know the stress etc of planning....but yeah, wouldn't make any difference to me. I'd be so excited for it to be shown!

Opinions? Is she being unreasonable? It's her and her partners day at the end of it.....I'd be worried my guests wouldn't show up though....

I do find the treatment of football fans as one homogenous mass rather bewildering.

All I can say is this. Either , go and focus on her wedding, or don't go.

This is just ridiculous. So from the service at midday until midnight when you leave you must stare continuously at the bride / wedding party, discuss nothing but wedding related matters. 2 hours out of a 12 hour day is nothing. If I'm staying at the venue I'll sometimes go back to my room for some down time during one of the lulls in events anyway.

I can understand her not wanting to show it but there's zero harm in people having goal notifications on their phones so they can keep up with what's going on, especially as the ceremony would have been over hours ago.

Not marrying someone because they're a "men's football fan"?? That's a bit weird...

That sounds like a proportionate response. Incidentally, do we know that the people wanting to be able to follow the game aren't primarily from her side?

And yy re stereotypes. There's certainly football violence but unfortunately there's also a rather problematic history in the UK of football as a sport that stems from the working classes being demonised and the fans being seen as scum, because of that. We all saw what that attitude led to.

I'd never want to stop discussion of the impact of sport on VAWG, notwithstanding that some of us, yanno, play/ed ourselves. I'm also not going to allow the class prejudice inherent in some of the stereotypes to be swept under the carpet. Context matters. You cannot make it go away.

The National Centre for Domestic Violence is running a campaign 'If England get beat so will she'.

God navigator thats so depressing. Thank you for posting

Been to numbers of Saturday weddings when the local team has been on TV. Guests have been allowed to watch in a separate room. Their temporary 90 minute absence (mainly men) from the main event, has been barely noticed. Is it possibly a problem that a World Cup match would attract significantly more viewers distracting from the main event

And it's likely to last more than 90 minutes if it goes to extra time and penalties again.

The type of men's football fan I find most annoying is actually the middle class twats who think it makes them cool/edgy/street to watch men's football and talk about it endlessly. Those are the ones who keep insisting that men's football 'unifies the country' (no it doesn't, as is clearly shown here: lots of people don't give a toss about it and some actively loathe it) or that there's something wrong with people who don't like it or who find the screaming and the aggression associated with it upsetting.

Whether she wants to show it or not up to her, but banning people from checking their phones is OTT and unreasonable

Which is fine but doesn't take away the context. Any more than me as a woman having enjoyed playing and watching stops the VAWG. We all know that the demonisation of football fans as prolescum that led to death trap grounds and cover ups wasn't and wont be matched by equally significant disdain for middle class fans and their lives.

What horrible sneery attitudes towards football there are on here.

I get that some people aren't interested, but let's not demonise ' men's football' because it's something you don't like.

As it happens, for a lot of people, England doing well in a World Cup in our most popular sport transcends normal boundaries of what people are interested in.

This is about national pride without the nastiness that comes with it. Reclaiming the St Georges flag for a short while from the knuckle dragging scum that normally where it.

Maybe I hate arrogant attention seeking brides as much as some people hate ' men's football' , but I acknowledge that is just my opinion and others believe in them ' having their special day '.

The bride in question has now hopefully realised she can't control the world and everyone in it, and that she might have to make a compromise.

Hey that's my birthday!!! Imagine that!!!!!

England were playing on our wedding day 4 years ago. We made sure there was a separate room at the venue so that those who wanted to watch it, could. Those who didn't took advantage of the extra room on the dancefloor!

I would absolutely be showing it. Just adds to the ambiance of the day and if England wins it would make it even better. I’m Scottish (English husband) and I’d still be showing it. She’s creating a bigger problem for herself by not showing it and ‘banning’ football. She will be disappointed though when she sees that everyone is distracted checking their phones etc because she does not own their lives and can’t ban guests from checking their phones. Sounds like a stressed princess if you ask me...

Bride and Groom's. Always remember nobody cares about your wedding as much as you do.

Be accommodating or risk your special day being bad mouthed for years afterwards.

The bride needs to open her mind to the fact that yes she hates football - that's fine. But to others it's the opposite

That's fine, then on their wedding day they can show the football. They can't expect something the bride (and presumably groom) have NO interest in to incorporated into a wedding they've no doubt planned meticulously

I can’t ubderstsnd anyone thinking it’s reniteky acceptable to put viewing a football game before being the wedding! I am totally on her side. If you MUST check your phone - ok. But don’t expect anymore from the bride and groom on one of the most important days maybe THE most important day of their lives. If it was me I’d say fine if that means more to you than sharing our day just don’t bother coming.

Reanimated You've got a weird view of football fans. The working class ones are aggressive and the middle class ones are twats? Have you ever been to a football match and spoken to the other spectators? I’m guessing not as you hate football, but if you were to go and actually watch a match, you might be surprised by what you find. (Obviously you’ll have no intention of doing so, in which case maybe you’re not in a position to continue speaking as though you know exactly who football fans are!)

You know she isn't being unreasonable. Why should she care about men's football? I cannot believe people on here saying she should check the timings for something completely irrelevant to her to make sure her wedding doesn't clash with it. Maybe saying they can't check their phones at any point is OTT but considering how OTT men's football fans are perhaps she has to be.

"Be accommodating", can you imagine a man being told to "be accommodating" of women's football fans? Men have to be told to "be accommodating" to things like that fact that women menstruate and have children, I literally cannot imagine a man being told to accommodate women's completely voluntary interests on an important day for him

I have met aggressive, scary men's football fans. I have worked with middle-class twats who think that getting excited about men's football gives them credibility. I also have some friends who are interested in men's football and are perfectly nice people who happen to have a hobby I don't want to share. But they are friends because they are not bothered if other people they know like sports or not - they might sometimes want to talk about their hobby with other people who like it, but they won't insist on inflicting it on their other friends who don't care about it.

Ah ok. Glad you’ve met some of the nice ones- they are the only type I know! Also the type that do not ‘inflict’ it on others.

I don’t think it’s outrageous for a person to ask a B&G if they will be showing the football. I don’t even think it’s particularly cheeky to politely request you get they show it. It would be rude to then get stroppy if the answer is no.

Its a hard one either way whatever the b and g choose to do. There will be folk annoyed whatever happens

The funniest posts here are those making out to be men vs women.

I'm watching Brazil v Belgium and I'm neither Brazilian nor Belgian.

The issue is that this game is of great interest for many of the guests, probably incluing at the very least a few women too.
There's an old motto: if you can't beat them, join them. Might as well, and everyone can enjoy themselves.

Nobody has to tell people they're not allowed to check their phones or talk about forbidden topics rimabean. That's a choice the bride made. Unless the wedding is in a prison maybe, or a schoolyard. If it is then the bride has bigger problems than the world cup.

I've thought a bit more on this...

Still with bride on it.

If you'd prefer to watch the football than celebrate their marriage then you're not close friends and don't bother going anyway. You wouldn't be present if you went to the wedding anyway.

If I was the bride I'd not want to watch a load of phombies walking around on what is meant to be the best day of her life.