To leave the child in bed...

[Singlebutmarried]

....and be late for school

She’s hardly slept this past week and she’s like a little zombie by about 4pm.

I think you did the right thing op. There were quite a few missing from the school gates here this morning and a fair few people arriving after the bell. I think with this heat they just are not sleeping early enough and getting exhausted.

Its not like its a regular thing.

I didn’t wake mine this morning, so all 3 were 10 minutes late. It’s 3 weeks before the end of term, nobody will suffer. They needed the rest!

coffeeaddict

I was talking about Maths. Missing hundreds of Maths lessons over the course of an education will make that education less effective.

I teach PHSE, by the way. I have never taught children about the dangers of presenteeism or authority figures. The content I have taught, however, they still need to be present to learn.

Lovely sensible post by Mulberry and I didn't think speakout 'snapped' as described by PP.

I don't understand why some people are so invested in other people's ways of educating their own child particularly if that parent is clearly sensible and caring (ie. Not abusive)

Some people are very inflexible and need to chill and see the big picture.

Well of course! In an ideal world every child would go to every single maths lesson and every PSHE lesson and every everything. And this would benefit their exam outcomes. That is not in doubt!

Surely we are only talking about cases where you have to make a choice between health/lack of sleep and maths?

Maybe you don't talk about presenteesim specifically in PSHE, but I guess I feel any talk about balance covers that. My kids were certainly given help over the exam period to help combat stress, some of which was 'don't spend too long revising at the expense of exercise and outdoors'. To me that is covering presenteeism although it may not be titled that.

single is foil the best thing? I would have thought having blackout blinds shut all day in a well ventilated room might help.
Also cool showers or baths before bed.
The Huff has some good ideas:
ways to cool your house

coffeeaddict

No, we are not. We are talking about (or I was, anyway) monthly duvet days.

You appear to have made the mistake of believing I was arguing for presenteeism. I was not. I accept that, in some cases, students need the occasional day to rest and recuperate. I said so earlier.

What I am saying is that allowing your child very frequent days off in circumstances where it isn't strictly necessary, will have an academic cost. And that is all I said.

Hoof. If you put foil in the windows shiny side out it helps keep it cool (did it in a holiday let and it’s worked a treat - can’t beleive I’m only just thinking of it now)

We’ve got black out blinds as well as curtains.

Pengggwyn

We made it to school just as the last of her class was going in.

So no missed time at all

She was however a lot happier for having been able to wake up by herself.

Weirdly she sleeps well on holiday in far hotter temps, but I’m guessing that’s because she’s usually in the pool all day.

speakout I assume that the unconditional offers are from Scottish universities only, as your DC would need Advanced Highers to be offered unconditionally from English (and possibly other UK/EU universities).

I personally don't agree with the self-select duvet days, but admire that you felt this was the right thing for you and your children, and that they seem to have both decided that they could cope with studies as they got older and no longer needed those days. It appears that they both have a good level of maturity and resilience.

Singlebutmarried

I didn't argue against this. I said, in fact, that I would have told her she had a temperature and kept her at home all day. As a one-off.

I saw that Pengggwyn, but she wanted to go to school, plus I’ve got month end and the dreaded VaT to do today.

Surely getting your kids up and to school on time is good practice for life

usernamealreadytaken yes, Scottish Universities, but that was their first choice- no fees to pay and my DD even gets a non repayable bursary for her Nursing course.
They didn't want to consider English Universities which would leave them in debt.

Singlebutmarried

And again, I didn't argue against that.

Pengggwyn

I’m not arguing with you.

Had she been still bog eyed and rancid then I’d have kept her home.

I've found this thread quite interesting (glad all resolved OP)

I tend to agree about learning that they must go into school no matter what unless actually ill (I equate it to the world if work....its an important lesson that getting up and going to work happens whether you are tired or not)

Mine are littlies,only one in reception but a friend if mine does that thing I've seen elsewhere...her kids have two MY days per school year

No explanation call outs ,they are not allowed to choose exams or test days bit other than that they get two free passes per year they can ask not go in

It seems to work really well

They literally are entitled to paid time off work. We all are. It's the law.

Taking a day off per month would be 12 days per year. The legal minimum for someone working full time is 28.

Absolutely. My interpretation of a "duvet day" as it relates to work is not a "I will take this day as part of my paid holiday" but "I fancy a sneaky day off so I will call in sick even though I am not." Thus it is the same as taking a "duvet day" from school on top of school holidays. Which I am not actually against by the way, every now and again if a child is stressed. Apologies if my definition of duvet day is not the right one, I haven't worked in an office for years.

Sorry, the first two paras there were supposed to be bold as quotes.

Actually I have Googled duvet day and see I am using it wrong - it is a day off sanctioned by your employer. So I should have called it a sneaky sick day or something.

I've no problem with the occasional day off.

However, monthly duvet days do not strike me as great preparation for the demands of graduate jobs (rather than students jobs, which are very different).

Each to his own though.

I never knew that about the foil single thanks for the tip.
Luckily the front of my house is coolest otherwise my lovely joyless busybody neighbours here in the 'burbs would report my meth factory to the police.

My dc have occasional days off when I can see they are getting close to burn out. It prevents them becoming ill. They know they can also ask and I will honour their decision if they are genuine. They have never ever abused it and have taken it or two days off in the middle of the winter and last week when they became irrationally tired from the heat and exams. I am making their health and mental well-being a priority, and to trust their own bodies

Will do back bedrooms today. I imagine it's quite fun to sleep in a tinfoiled room

Exactly life my Dd can recognise when