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...to think it's rude of teachers at end of term declaring that they've earned their holiday/deserve a large glass of wine etc.....?

586 replies

Semisonic · 29/06/2018 23:46

Does it not imply that they think everyone's kids are little horrors and that it's such a hard job and we're not worthy?
Maybe all the kids are little horrors, maybe it is a hard job but they're getting paid for it. It was their choice! My job's hard too but I won't bang on about It.
I think it's quite insulting to the parents of the children. No? [hmmm]

OP posts:
feral · 30/06/2018 08:19

Are you for real??

TMIMonday · 30/06/2018 08:19

I go into schools to work with children on a 1:1 basis several times a week (social worker). My job is hard but a teacher and a TA and a head and the MDS deserve not only their pay but acknowledgment that they have a tough role. Some of the children are traumatised, have additional needs or are just bloody confused because they aren’t adults. Dealing with that every day in working life is HARD. Anyone who can’t understand that is at best naive, at worst ignorant.

SureIusedtobetaller · 30/06/2018 08:19

With a few weeks to go till the end of term and yet another school event to attend today (when I’ve already worked a full week and still have paperwork to do this weekend) all the supportive responses are lovely - thank you!

Owlettele · 30/06/2018 08:22

No. Generally it's not the kids but that any decent teacher has been likely working 10-12 hour days and sacrificed time with their own family to ensure that the children get engaging lessons and make progress. This on top of plenty of beurocrcy is Really hard work. The kids are generally the reason it's worth staying in the job. So no......not being rude. Usually just knackered and looking forward to seeing own family for a while!

Bowlofbabelfish · 30/06/2018 08:24

I am in awe of the staff at my kid’s nursery.

They are endlessly calm, patient and loving in the face of a tiny squadron of irrational, incontinent tyrants.
I would be on my knees by lunchtime yet after eight hours of toddler wrangling they are smiling, cheerful, loving and calm.

I hope they all have a lovely break and all the sangria they bloody well want.

MissusGeneHunt · 30/06/2018 08:25

I have a 'support' role within LA schools working at a council, ie, I don't teach but I work with all schools for a specific purpose. In my mind, any member of school staff are bloody heroes / heroines, and I feel delighted for them when their holidays arrive. The crap they have to deal with is immense, alongside reduced budgets, and reduced support.

All hail school staff, and thank you for the work you do!

RebelRogue · 30/06/2018 08:25

I'm just a TA and this term is gruelling. That's without the added pressure,paperwork,report writing and whatever else SLT are cooking up.
I can't wait for the summer holidays because I'm touched out,emotionally exhausted and worn out for various reasons. Dunno if I deserve it,but I do NEED it.

I also can't wait to get to spend some actual time with DD when I'm not stressed or worried about other children. To spend time with her without looking at the clock thinking how many things I need to fit in before her bed time.

And the irony of it,is that sometimes I feel guilty about it because I know some of my kids are going to have absolutely shit summer hols without the reprieve/buffer of being at school.

listsandbudgets · 30/06/2018 08:27

Wow... I sometimes get my own DC to bed and long for a glass of wine and I've only got 2 to worry about not 30.. and I dont have to mark their work, plan their lessons or be on constant lookout for bullying

SoupDragon · 30/06/2018 08:28

Sometimes being in charge of just 3 small children drove me to drink. 30 of them....? Too right they’ve earned their wine!

Nofunkingworriesmate · 30/06/2018 08:28

have taught in dead tough schools and private schools, both hard work in different ways, the tough schools tended to have great camaraderie bit like soldiers in a war zone, especially when there were two ( one fatal stabbing) in the school. It is unnerving to think that the kid who you attempted to discipline is now doing life for murder with 4 of his mates. I wasn't that afraid when he " got up in my grill" but it has made me anxious ever since plus very sad for the families involved.
I won't go on about the private school parents because you have made my point for me OP 😂🍷🍻🍺🎉

Achafi · 30/06/2018 08:30

YABU. Hth

RitaMills · 30/06/2018 08:32

My nearly 9 year old has turned into a moody, backchatting little shit overnight. I’ve noticed his little friends are kind of similar, any teacher that puts up with 26 of them every school day for a year deserves holidays and wine galore and I mind not one iota if they express it.

itsbritneybiatch · 30/06/2018 08:34

I usually take in wine as part of their end of year thank you present. With chocolates.

RebelRogue · 30/06/2018 08:34

I refuse to be driven to drink though.Grin

However I do smoke , and a parent managed to complain about that,despite being in my own time,not anywhere near the school gates.

Makemineboozefree · 30/06/2018 08:35

Have you disappeared to polish your halo, OP? How marvellous for you that your children are such perfect angels you adore being with them 24/7 and would never dream of wishing they'd go to bed and can't understand why teachers aren't the same about the kids in their charge. Hmm

Then again, I imagine you've never done a job where you have to be constantly "on", where you're dealing every day with children who have SN or behavioural issues while trying to teach the rest of the class to the high standard demanded of you by your SLT and governors, not to mention dealing with parents who seem to think it's your job to raise their children because they can't be bothered to teach them basics like going to the toilet or tying their shoelaces, so you have to do that too. That's without the insane workload that takes up all your precious time – time you want to spend with your own DC.

My OH is a primary school and he's crawling towards the summer holidays, he's utterly exhausted. He's getting all the beers he wants!

You, on the other hand OP, can have my first Biscuit for such a ridiculous post.

LotsToThinkOf · 30/06/2018 08:37

My DS's teacher can have as much wine as she likes for working so hard with him, she must be bloody exhausted. She's also had 29 others.

It's not an insult, the teacher is knackered as a result of working so hard to help the children achieve. As a parent I do not see how this is an insult.

Roomba · 30/06/2018 08:39

It's not generally the children that we're complaining about! It's a frustrating job for many reasons. The children are usually the easier bit (ime anyway). I've heard many other people doing many different jobs echo similar sentiments as the weekend/their holiday rolls around. Sorry, should I sit and sob all summer because I'm missing work instead? Oh hang on, I still do loads of work in the summer holidays...

Flatwhite32 · 30/06/2018 08:42

Thank you SO much to everyone sticking up for teachers on here! I really appreciate it. Smile

I start maternity leave next Friday at nearly 38 weeks and a parent said to me yesterday, "Bet you can't wait!" Of course I replied, "Oh no, absolutely not." Oh, wait... Hmm. And I have a lovely class of 31 children!

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 30/06/2018 08:44

No

I did a class trip recently I had to lie down a deep breathe for 30 minutes

Lovely but SUCH hard work wrestling 30 9-10 year olds

Have all the Wine teachers

Allthewaves · 30/06/2018 08:44

It's something everyone says. If they were being nasty they would be saying thank goodness we have time off from dealing with the parents - they are harder than the kids in primary

MerryMarigold · 30/06/2018 08:49

Next time you manage to keep a class of 30 10 year olds quiet for even 15 minutes, let alone teach them anything, you can comment on it.

However nice your child may be, 30 children in one room, often with 1 or max 2 adults, is extremely hard work. That's before you start trying to teach them. And not only teach them but teach them at DIFFERENT LEVELS in DIFFERENT SUBJECTS as kids learn at different speeds and have different talents.

pinkhorse · 30/06/2018 08:50

I know for a fact I couldn't cope with 20-30 children every day. You have to be a special kind of person to be a teacher. I admire and respect every single one of my ds' teachers. Wonderful people and fully deserve their breaks.

Bingpot · 30/06/2018 08:50

OP, we're teachers because we LIKE working with children, not because we're some sort of martyr-masochists who slog at a job to nurture people we can't stand. It's YOU that's inferred teachers think children are horrors. If a doctor or nurse said they needed a glass of wine at the end of the day, would you assume that's because they hate the general public? Or would you think they're run off their feet after a long hard week at work? No? Just teachers you want to judge, is it? I feel sorry for the ones that have to teach your family if this is the degree of contempt you have for them.

SheSparkles · 30/06/2018 08:55

I’m not a teacher but the impression I get from a couple I know is that the children are the good part of the job, amd the reason they went into teach. What they don’t feel the love for is the never ending and ever increasing paperwork and box ticking. I’m sure teachers would be a much happier bunch (not generalising -MUCHGrin) if they could get back to the business of teaching without as much of the admin.
We ALL deserve our holidays, and none of us are shy of saying so-why should teachers be any different?

MaisyPops · 30/06/2018 08:55

It's the collective 'woohoo!' feeling that's good. That's staff and students.

Other workplaces might get the same thing if they all broke up together.

By the enr of term staff and students are all ready for the holidays. Why be miserable and find offence at that?