To ask what social class you would say I am?

[flowersandcake]

Hello!

So my friends and I were discussing class issues and one friend told me that I would have 'no idea about anything as I'm upper class' and another strangly interupted and mentioned that I'm working not upper class? I personally thought I was middle?

My situation is:
5 bed house worth 900K, no mortgage
2 Teenagers
Lucky enough to pay for their uni fees and sixth form fees, both at private sixth form, one went to a grammar and the other a state secondary school
DD owns a pony and DS used to
DD plays the violin and DS the drums
2 holidays a year (one longer one and either a week in cornwall/scotland or a couple of weekend city breaks)
Household income of 110-140K depending on the year as DH is self employed and can earn up to 90K.

I promise I'm not boasting or anything, we give 10K a year to charity and DS is in the process of persuading his dad to give his uni fees to a charity.

So what class would I be in your opinion?

Middle class

You call your sitting room a living room you are working class

So you are working class just because you don't say sitting room?? This is all a bit bonkers.

Two children I know are privately educated since reception, do latin etc at school, live in a large mortgage free house worth well over a million not in the south of the country, have post grad educated parents who are both working at a senior level in one of the traditional professions, ski every year and then have two additional overseas holidays and probably also a short holiday in this country too, ride and fence as their main hobbies, eat "pudding" and use "napkins". However they say "living room" since that's what their parents say. (I'm taking these as examples of the things pp have said are indicators of middle class - I'm not saying it's how I would judge it) Are they working class just because they say "living room"? I wouldn't have thought so. I would say they are middle class.

true about horses not being a class indicator - was at the West Wales horse sales yesterday and there wasn't a posh twat in sight...

The ‘posher ‘ horsey owners probably get their ‘people’ to do the buying and selling!

naaah horse-people is a totally different thing to posh people. You're right. They're a class all to themselves.

I refuse to use “ pudding” over “ dessert” as in my mind sticky toffee pudding is a pudding. Triffle is a dessert.

Loo vs toilet, living room vs sitting room, napkin vs serviette, seriously who has time for this shit? Thank heavens, this pretentious non-classy “I’m better than you “ nonsense is only inside the UK!

When I was a kid it was the front room (and for my grandmother it was the "drawing room" which was separate to the room where we watched tv which was part of an open plan dining-living room just referred to as the dining room) but now the living room in my house is not at the front so it makes no sense to me to call it the front room.

'die Antword' I think you're freeky and I like you a lot'

honestly the problem about what to call the room that you sit in became a bloody minefield. Whatever I said (sitting room/lving room/front room) my brother would correct it. Now I just say 'Lounge' in imaginary inverted commas. Fucking nightmare.

I always thought “sitting room” was working class. We say “family room” in our house. I realise this sounds wanky but it’s what we’ve always called it

I’d say you are lower middle OP.

I call myself working class. I have a similar lifestyle to the OP and earn a high salary (lucky to be in a skilled profession thanks to grammar school and no uni fees) but I’m from a council estate and most of my friends are too.

22 pages discussing class!

Just out of interest to pp’s who said you can only be born into aristocracy. Surely you can marry into it?

The old class indicators just do not hold water anymore. Look at the royal family. New arrivals are all part of an Elite, well connected class.
Kate Middleton’s family are self made millionaires, and she was sent to one of the most exclusive boarding schools in England to make the right connections and to be given polish and the accent.

I don’t know the American class system but Meghan Markle seems to come from a middle class family, but given her own efforts has earned money and recognition being an actress, which has also given her access to the Elite clas

@FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast my son was obsessed with "banana brain" when he was like 10 months, gave him the biggest grin.

@CurlyWurlyTwirly nah you can't marry into aristocracy, you're still a commoner but your kids might not be depending on circumstances.

OP you've done well in life why do you need to get validation on the internet by strangers? I've never had those kind of discussions with my friends but we are generally happy in ourselves.

I have no idea without talking to you. It is about much more than material things. People living in hovels can have “class”, people living in palaces may have none. Class consciousness is alive and well, more’s the pity.

@SaucyJack

Slytherin

best reply on here 😂😂

While I would never dream of buying any newspaper other than The Times (see what I did there?) I have a vulgar addiction to the Daily Mail online. It seems that OP must be an Agent Provocateur on the staff of that filthy but fascinating rag. Made for an amusing thread anyway.....

Based on you saying 'living room' and 'dad', the fact you went to a day school, and most importantly the fact that you seem absolutely desperate for someone to say you're posh, I would put you down as nouveau riche.

Not forgetting the fact that you read The Guardian - no posh person in their right mind would choose to do that!

Aaaaaand it’s in the Daily Mail www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5897461/Mother-accused-showing-asks-middle-class.html

Adalune

I do not read papers, I read Zola and Belzac
I use a napkin
Bloody
Inherited furniture

Added to that
I say what
I go to the loo
I sit on a sofa
I drive a classic car
I have a sitting room

So, what am I?

It's all a nonsense isn't it.

Well, this is really feeding in to my class insecurity. I think of myself as educated working class. I mix with middle class people through my interests - art, theatre, books etc. but my closest friends are people with working class origins. They (we) might have a comfortable lifestyle, but our politics are left wing and informed by the harsh lives of our grandparents and g gr. I was a scholarship girl at a direct grant convent school where they did their best to make us in to young ladies, elocution, deportment, correction of manners etc leaving me with hang ups! I recently embarrassed myself by calling my sitting room a front room (bit of a give away). Napkin does not come naturally to me and serviette pains me so I try to avoid calling them anything. Pathetic, isn’t it? I suspect that I’m that most despised type:lower middle class.

Zerowhite you sound fab. It's all very silly.