To ask what social class you would say I am?

[flowersandcake]

Hello!

So my friends and I were discussing class issues and one friend told me that I would have 'no idea about anything as I'm upper class' and another strangly interupted and mentioned that I'm working not upper class? I personally thought I was middle?

My situation is:
5 bed house worth 900K, no mortgage
2 Teenagers
Lucky enough to pay for their uni fees and sixth form fees, both at private sixth form, one went to a grammar and the other a state secondary school
DD owns a pony and DS used to
DD plays the violin and DS the drums
2 holidays a year (one longer one and either a week in cornwall/scotland or a couple of weekend city breaks)
Household income of 110-140K depending on the year as DH is self employed and can earn up to 90K.

I promise I'm not boasting or anything, we give 10K a year to charity and DS is in the process of persuading his dad to give his uni fees to a charity.

So what class would I be in your opinion?

Lower middle... your ponies aren't at home but your children are...

Such a utterly pointless conversation. Class is irrelevant unless you are someone who doesn't have confidence in your own achievements and relies on comparing yourself according to the items you own or not!

RoadtoRivendell

My experience is very different. Poor spelling and grammar are an indication of social background. I would class a lack of basic grammar (for native English speakers) and spelling abilities in the same bucket as being unable to hold a knife and fork properly.

I agree with you Blue about speaking, I'm talking about informal writing. Most MC people I know do not labour over emails, even ones having a lot of recipients.

@Blueisland this is what I would have thought too.

I agree with you Blue about speaking, I'm talking about informal writing. Most MC people I know do not labour over emails, even ones having a lot of recipients.

If you have to work for your money you are working class. If your money works for you you are middle class. If your family hasn't had to work for generations you are upper class. If your great-great-great-grandfather is the illegitimate son of a king then you are an aristocrat.

I think it’s archaic to consider one’s class.

Just asked my husband what class he thinks we are. He said ‘working’ and the 20 year old said, ‘come on! You’re so middle class’ But he’s going through a stage where all his uni friends think he’s posh and he’s trying to be all ‘street’ 😂

For instance, the genuine middle class would not divulge income or types of cars or spell professional wrongly!

I'm not sure but I suspect part of this was aimed at me. As I spelled professional incorrectly, although I didn't divulge specific income or type of car, if you read my post I never said I was middle class, I said if you looked at me from the outside you may think I am, but if you knew me, you'd see my working class roots and that it took more than a generation.

I'm not sure spelling is a class indicator though. And I'm surprised that's one of your barometers. Plenty of middle and upper class are dyslexic and can't spell well. My husband for example is firmly middle class, middle class family, but he can't spell for toffee. My poor spelling to be fair is more laziness. I just can't be arsed correcting it on mumsnet.

I think lower middle class because the emphasis is on the value of the house, and the kids were mostly state educated. They've done well for themselves, though and almost certainly have candlelit suppers.

If you have to work for your money you are working class.

But this clearly isn't true is it. Plenty of people working in professional roles for their £250k salaries with multi million pound houses, children in private school etc - are they not middle class?

If you have to work for your money you are working class

Agree that's too simplistic. Doctors, lawyers, dentists, company directors, engineers, the list goes on are typically middle class roles.

If it was as simple as if you work your middle class and if you don't your either upper or underclass is too simplistic. Plenty of upper class people work. The extended royal family would be a prime example. No one would say princess Eugenie is working class because she has a job.

I was born very much working class.

Went to uni, got a good job, now very comfortably off and do typical middle class things.

Would NOT aspire to be any particular class. Some friends of mine are in a circle of friends who are more old money / everyone wears red trousers and is called Rupert.

I bloody hate going out with them and am always very happy to come home to whatever class I am...

Sounds like you as rough as a badgers arse to me love

Sounds like you as rough as a badgers arse to me love

Twice over

i think your an sad sad person

what kind of person even asks this. smh

@Birdsgottafly

I work in HR/Recruitment for a global organisation and that has/would never occur.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but that's rare.

How embarrassing

Upper working class/done good/vulgarian

The fact you speak about money so much and not cultcha pushes you below MC I would say and the fact you so interested in this topic makes you sound like you need reassurance and you are insecure about your standing in society. You did ask!

Lower middle... your ponies aren't at home but your children are...

This made me chuckle!

You cannot decide to be ‘Upper Class’ you would be born into an aristocratic family and have wealth passed down through the generations.

What you have described in your OP in regards to your standard of living or the 900K house, private education and ponies is a fairly common situation in the middle class nothing would stand out to me as abundantly wealthy.
From what you have said I struggle to see how your husband is upper class unless he is from an aristocratic family with titles, land etc.

So yes definitely middle class probably aspiring upper middle but definitely not upper class.

That's an interesting comment Happypoobum. My close friend is the Private secretary for a Marquis. He can't cobble together a coherent sentence.
Pretty sure he's at the top end of the class tree though !

tbh if you are socialising with people who think that your lifestyle is 'upper class' then you are all a bit thick.

'Upper class' means like titles/land/trust funds/ancestor a king's bumboy.

You on the other hand sound a bit naff, probably lower middle ..

Blueisland

RoseWhite

I think class is interesting, so that’s why I clicked on the thread. It’s all the disclosure of personal financial information and possessions that makes me cringe.

Ok, got you. 🙂I totally agree. It is very cringeworthy behaviour.