To ask what social class you would say I am?

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Hello!

So my friends and I were discussing class issues and one friend told me that I would have 'no idea about anything as I'm upper class' and another strangly interupted and mentioned that I'm working not upper class? I personally thought I was middle?

My situation is:
5 bed house worth 900K, no mortgage
2 Teenagers
Lucky enough to pay for their uni fees and sixth form fees, both at private sixth form, one went to a grammar and the other a state secondary school
DD owns a pony and DS used to
DD plays the violin and DS the drums
2 holidays a year (one longer one and either a week in cornwall/scotland or a couple of weekend city breaks)
Household income of 110-140K depending on the year as DH is self employed and can earn up to 90K.

I promise I'm not boasting or anything, we give 10K a year to charity and DS is in the process of persuading his dad to give his uni fees to a charity.

So what class would I be in your opinion?

Crispy, yes agree it doesn't make sense.

900k for a five bed house so she's not in London, or not in a great part if she is.
Predominantly state educated kids.
An extra 40k a year unexplained.
10 k a year to charity would make sense if it was being offset against tax and he was self employed. But not as a banker.
1k a month for one pony is unbelievably expensive.
Husband upper class, so therefore titled/aristocracy. Yet her friend thinks she's working class.

It all seems a bit made up to me. Or not thr whole truth.

More holes than a hay bale! Love this.

You are definately middle class or you wouldn't be asking.

Middle class people generally know how to spell “definitely”!!

Yes but I'm a proudly working class Northerner. The sad thing is I got it wrong yesterday as well (and knew). Its like independant/ent. Total blind spot.

Whenever i hear the words ' livery stables 'i always think of those documentaries about the Queen when she appears with her headscarf and padded jacket on to see her fillies - and there's always a very posh man who comments about ' how the Queen would have made a very good trainer of horses' - thats how i 'see' the very upper classes on leisure time.
adds nothing to this thread , i think the OP has gone off anyway to pay her own livery stable fees. .

This makes me wonder what class I am - but I can't see what difference it makes

I always thought your parents and upbringing had quite a lot to do with it. My friends would describe me as middle class but I personally feel I am more working class due to my heritage. I would say placing great emphasis on money and material possessions is not typical behaviour for the upper class.

Well I don't even think it's 'professional' middle class behaviour either to talk about money and material possessions.

@ScreamingValenta that's so interesting. I'm going to do some more reading into it, I didn't realise how many aspects went into each class.

Especially with education. I thought a degree from a top university would automatically put you in a higher class.

Thank you for explaining that!

I think people who have always had money are less likely to talk about it as they feel more secure. I don't mind as I am a bit of a CF. If someone says "Have you seen my new ride on lawnmower/ pony/ gazebo?" I usually ask to borrow it. People soon shut up about what they have then.

I do get the whole ' not bragging, not speaking about what you have' to be fair, because if you do happen to live in a mansion with fish knifes made of solid silver or tiaras in a vault in Hatton garden or somewhere and drive very nice cars but also have the older cars for a ' run around' or any of the other trappings of wealth from your heritage or background, you don;t need to brag as everyone can see it for themselves anyway!

I dont believe that a degree from Oxford or Cambridge can automatically 'make' you a different class from the one you were born into.
There are lots of layers to each 'class' and Brits are a bit obsessed with it.

Rose white I have done your test and I am, it appears, lower middle class. Upwardly mobile then!

I always thought your parents and upbringing had quite a lot to do with it

I'm not sure actually, I suspect it does. I come from a solid working class background. Poverty in fact. But our income is higher than the ops, our house worth more, our daughter privately educated from reception, I'm the main bread winner and in a professional role, which was more luck than design,due to progression. My husband is also in a proffessional role. We both drive expensive cars.

Am I working class or middle class. I think I straddle both. My daughter is probably middle class, possibly even she will be upper middle. First class law degree, looking to be a solicitor.

If you looked at me from the outside you'd say middle class. If you knew me, you'd see the working class roots. Not because of my accent or how I dress, but because of a lot of my values. I will always be the girl who grew up in charity housing, whose social circle growing up was in the same poverty ridden boat, and it will always impact on who I am today.

Most of my friends come from working clsss or lower middle class backgrounds. I do have some friends solidly upper middle class, but am closer to the ones more like me. Where as I would say my daughters friends are typically middle/upper middle class.

I guess we are an example of social mobility. And it takes more than a generation. It takes two.

Bankers in the advanced stages of their career earn way more than 90k. This thread is a hoax .

My test came out ' upper class' i nearly chocked on my yorkshire tea!
Am very Working class.
bluntness, good post there.
Nothing wrong with aspiration, but remembering your roots is also important i think, too many people don't and want to air brush it all away.

OP
Do you know what LAMFRT stands for?

I don't believe that a degree from Oxford or Cambridge can automatically 'make' you a different class

No, but then 70% of Oxbridge students come from wealthy backgrounds and private education in the first place, so you probably chose the wrong example!

Bluntness my daughter too will be probably be in a different class to me as DH family are very Middle Class and she is going private. She already tells me off on spelling, elocution etc. I remember how awful I was as a teenager an young adult looking down on my parents as I went to a grammar, university, professional qualification and they left school at 14 and 16. I hope she is a bit more forgiving.

Working classes ( to me any way) do not own ponies.

They do. www.sunderlandecho.com/news/move-over-boyracers-are-pony-and-trap-riders-the-new-wheeled-menace-in-sunderland-1-4815697

I've no idea what I am. My dad was a builder and my mum was a TA at a specialist school for severely disabled children. But we went on 4 week holidays to France, lived in a large 4 bed house (built by my dad) and ate regularly at fancy restaurants. Dad can't spell for toffee and eventually made himself bankrupt through excessive living costs. Both parents left school at 15 (I think my mum probably took more notice of her lessons though!) I went to uni (in the days of grants), have a professional job and my husband (engineer) and kids enjoy a degree of comfort. We afford everything we need and a little of what we want and live in a decent enough area with a reasonable disposable income. I suppose we'd be somewhere in the middle in terms of disposable income, which I guess makes us middle class. But I don't think you can disregard your roots and those of your parents.

formerbabe I don't know if you've been called on this yet, I hope you have, but this wc though...I'm a bit fat, wear too much make up and have been known to wear a hoop earring is absolutely disgusting.

Honestly, you think the entire body of working class women are overweight with make up caked on? Give me strength.

Are you Katie price?

Class isn't really about money. You are very wealthy but probably middle class.

If you are university educated and in a professional career then you are middle class. People can be working class millionaires.

Upper class is really reserved for aristocrats.