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To ask you who should pay....

186 replies

Aprilshouldhavebeenmyname · 26/06/2018 17:42

Person A and person B out drinking after football match last Sunday.
Person A has no pocket so asks person B to put phone in their car parked next to pub.
Person B doesn't want to be seen opening car when quite drunk. Security +police close by. Could be seen as possibly going to drive....
So person B puts phone in their pocket.
Phone drops from pocket and screen now smashed to bits.
No insurance apparently - iPhone also so diy repair a no-go.
Person A says person B needs to get it fixed. Person B has no issue with this but are they a soft touch?
To you the mn jury......

OP posts:
AshleyAuth · 27/06/2018 18:37

Look on this as a good Samaritan act. Person B was playing the part of the Samaritan, person A was the one in need of assistance - law provides indemnity for those acting as a good Samaritan. If B was negligent, then there's a moral responsibility, if B wasn't, it's all back on A.
Interesting aside: Why would A bring a phone then hand it off, meaning the device was in fact worthless to A under these circumstances? A does come across as rather.....

marymoosmum · 27/06/2018 18:53

The fact that it was person A's phone and they should have had pockets, person B agreed to look after the phone and didn't, they broke it and should pay for it.

happypoobum · 27/06/2018 19:01

Person A asked a drunk person to take care of their phone and so they face the consequences.

A should pay.

Tell DS he is being mugged off.

mostdays · 27/06/2018 19:06

A should pay, and also should have insurance.

delilahbot · 27/06/2018 19:08

Firstly you don't have an iPhone without protective glass for this very reason their screens are horrendous for smashing!
Secondly it was an accident, I'd never expect someone to pay for my phone if I'd asked them to Look after it. These things happen.

MarvellousMonsters · 27/06/2018 19:44

This is what silicone phone cases are for.

Boulty · 27/06/2018 20:19

Person A - don't ask a drunk person to look after property. Look after it yourself (unless you are 5 years old then give it to mummy or daddy to look after).

embo1 · 27/06/2018 20:41

Person A knowingly let a drunk person look after their phone. Person A can't complain!

Banana8080 · 27/06/2018 20:47

Person B should have opened passenger door or car.

Person B, if pocket lose don’t take phone in first place.

Bekstar · 27/06/2018 21:24

Most cars open with remote pressing so why not just open the car and let the other person put it away if they want it away. If it was in your pocket when it was damaged then its your responsibility. You could have refused either and told them to hold onto it

raspberrysuicide · 27/06/2018 21:45

He was wrong to get an iPhone in the first place.

BackforGood · 27/06/2018 21:48

Agree with the majority. Person A needs to pay.
I would certainly be telling ds to man up.
Firstly, if you choose to have an expensive phone, they you make a conscious choice about if you pay extra to insure it, or you take the risk of not being able to afford to replace it if it gets broken. Then, if you take something expensive out with you, it is your responsibility to look after it - take a bag if you don't have pockets it will fit in.
There is no way your ds is responsible for it.

Polishitbehindthedoor · 27/06/2018 21:52

Person A bought an expensive iPhone, but failed to furnish it with a protective screen cover, case and insurance

Person A brought expensive unprotected uninsured iPhone on a boozy night out

Person A brought no bag or jacket with pockets with which to carry expensive unprotected uninsured iPhone on said boozy night out

Person A got heavily inebriated, at the financial expense of Person B, whilst in possession of expensive iPhone, without any means of storing it

Person A then got bored of carrying their own expensive unprotected uninsured iPhone around once the battery died so, asked Person B, also intoxicated, to take it off her hands

Person B felt obliged, being a nice person, but accidentally dropped Person A's iPhone whilst kindly carrying it around in his own pocket, because being a nice chap he didn't want to get into trouble with the law for being in possession of a car and it's keys whilst intoxicated

Person A then demands Person B pays for its repair, AND a takeaway, AND a weekend away.

Person B needs to locate their spine and tell Person A to come back when they've learnt some responsibility and maturity. And "see you on Judge Rinder!"

I can only assume Person A must be very good looking / fit / good in the bedroom dept for your DS to take this kind of freeloading

RoseMartha · 27/06/2018 22:04

Both pay half each

Shumpalumpa · 27/06/2018 22:14

A pays. Any chance your DS will sack her off or is he in lurve?

FinallyFree123456789 · 27/06/2018 22:21

She needs to pay.
She sounds like a CF!

I curbed my ex’s new alloy once - 2 days after her got a brand new car - I admitted it was me - he said not to worry he went through insurance and I paid the £20 excess because I felt bad - he didn’t ask or tell me to pay it!
If it was an expensive iPhone she should have insurance ... or at the very least a case and a screen protector.
As for not having a bag or pockets - she could have stuck the phone down her bra!
Also, I’ve had my screen replaced loads it varies from £30 - £90 depending on the iPhone in Essex (incase it changes price due to where you live)

BadLad · 27/06/2018 23:43

Funny how most seem to think person A is female

I think it's very rare that men go out without any pockets at all. That's why I assumed A was female.

Hodge00079 · 28/06/2018 00:58

If drink not involved, B. They accepted responsibility for item.

As drink was involved it could be argued that A knew that B not guaranteed to keep it safe. But who makes the best decisions after a few drinks. I think you would need to prove that B was negligent.

Would love to know how Judge Rinder would rule.

Morally A. They need to take responsibility for actions. The decision was taken to take an ‘expensive’ item out. There was a good chance without pockets and drink being involved something may happen.

I know that some people think not going to car was overkill. I think it was being sensible. That to me shows maturity.

Bramble71 · 28/06/2018 02:42

Person A should've looked after their own phone. It's a bit cheeky to expect someone else to look after your stuff then complain about the manner in which it's done.

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/06/2018 02:50

Person B's DM needs to let him learn the hard way.

avamiah · 28/06/2018 03:46

Person B

Mountainsoutofmolehills · 28/06/2018 04:51

b should offer to pay. a shouldn't accept. go 50/50.

Original poster
Aprilshouldhavebeenmyname · 28/06/2018 08:08

Person B's dm hasn't actually stuck her nose in at all!

OP posts:
leighb23 · 28/06/2018 09:38

@SoddingUnicorns - if you're opening the passenger door you would find it incredibly hard to drive a vehicle. Unless you're Inspector Gadget?

bellabasset · 28/06/2018 09:50

Person A should have had the iPhone in protective cover, also take out small shoulder bag for keys, money etc.

Person B should either have remotely opened the car door or boot to store phone in or refused to take it. Perhaps person b should offer half the cost as was daft putting it in his pocket.