To ask you who should pay....

[Aprilshouldhavebeenmyname]

Person A and person B out drinking after football match last Sunday.
Person A has no pocket so asks person B to put phone in their car parked next to pub.
Person B doesn't want to be seen opening car when quite drunk. Security +police close by. Could be seen as possibly going to drive....
So person B puts phone in their pocket.
Phone drops from pocket and screen now smashed to bits.
No insurance apparently - iPhone also so diy repair a no-go.
Person A says person B needs to get it fixed. Person B has no issue with this but are they a soft touch?
To you the mn jury......

Person B did the damage so they pay. If the phone had of been in the car it wouldn't have happened. The police won't arrest someone for entering there car, to collect or drop off belongings.

Person A. It's not person B's responsibility.

Person A is a CF, tell your DS to run like the wind!

She should pay for the phone and she should pay for her own drinks. And I'd be encouraging him to ditch her. She sounds like a bit of a female cocklodger.

I got my screen on my iPhone replaced last week for £30.

My friend replaced his himself with a kit he bought online - cost £12.

I really don't understand people saying person B.

If I hand my belongings to someone else I don't expect them to take the same level of responsibility for them as I have. It with the knowledge that if something happens and it gets lost/stolen/broken it is still my problem. While I would hope they would care for them accidents happen.

Person A is an idiot who should suck it up.
Person B should stop agreeing to take care of other people's belongings. He was right to not try and gain entry to his car if he was drunk.

Person A.

Person A

They're irresponsible dipshits for

A not taking responsibility for holding/storing their own valuable property.

B not having insurance

C not having phone in a case, with a screen protector on. Can get from pound shops ffs!

A pays, gets phone insured, a case and screen protector. Beyond me people having tech worth hundreds if not thousands but being too dim/lazy/tight to protect and insure it!

"Ps - you say in your opening post that it’s an iphone so the screen can’t be a DIY job, but it can. There’s a company called imemd whocome out to a location of your choice to repair it in front of you." While technically/practically it can be, having a repair done by a non-approved repair company (which this is highly likely to be) invalidates warranty/guarantee on the phone if it's still in that time frame which most people's are. Then if anything further goes wrong with the phone Apple won't deal with it.

Re update at 1903 sounds like DS has a freeloader on his hands! He DEFINITELY shouldn't be paying for all drinks either!

Person a should have brought a bag or zip up pocket, who goes drinking without having a safe place for your money and phone?

Well sounds like A didn't even BRING money - assumed B was paying for EVERYTHING. So why need pockets/bag eh?

The law would say Person B should pay. He accepted responsibility for the phone, but it was destroyed due to his negligence.

She sounds like a keeper not!
I think they should pay half each tbf.

So do I dare tell him to man up? Tel her to woman up and pay her way?
Or silently scream at him for being a softie?

She sounds a peach. What a way to endear herself to your family.

Person A pays because they chose to give responsibility of an expensive gadget to someone too visibly drunk to open a car

She knew she didn’t have a pocket or a bag - what was the plan if your son said he wouldn’t put it in the car? Leaving valuables in a car is supposedly a no-no.

Why didnt a look after phone

She was too busy sponging alcohol off her new bf obviously.

Person A

Ultimately, it belongs to you therefore it remains your responsibility.

Was person A&B drunk?

If both was drunk owner should take responsibility .,, actually sod that ... the owner should pay ... next time take a bag or wear clothes with pockets!

If I were person A, I'd pay. If I were person B, I'd offer to pay. It's a tricky thing - you don't want to establish a principle that someone doing you a favour is fully liable for anything that happens to your stuff, or nobody's going to do you any favours ever again. On the other hand, it's also clearly not on to say that you bear no responsibility for anyone else's things while they're in your possession. Splitting the cost is probably fairest.

Only person A was drunk. Sick all night apparently.
Luckily they didn't sleep at my house!!

If B hadn't agreed to look after the phone then A would have had to hold onto it all night. But when B agreed to hold onto the phone, they are accepting a reasonable duty of care. If they drop it and break it, they should repair the damage.

Opening a car door isn’t a prosecutable offence. It doesn’t, in and of itself, indicate an intention to drive.

As I think others have pointed out, just being in the general vicinity of a car while in possession of keys seems to constitute being in charge of a vehicle. I'm sure I've heard of people who had chosen not to drive because they thought it wasn't safe being convicted after police found them sleeping on the back seat.